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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:27 PM Dec 2015

BREAKING: Mass shooting being reported in San Bernadino area-confirmed

SBFD units responding to reports of 20 victim shooting incident in 1300 block of S. Waterman. SBPD is working to clear the scene.

Confirmed: .@SanBernardinoPD has confirmed an active shooter in the area of Orange Show Rd/ Waterman Ave near Park center. #SBCSD assisting.
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BREAKING: Mass shooting being reported in San Bernadino area-confirmed (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Dec 2015 OP
Here we go again malaise Dec 2015 #1
Just another average day in America randys1 Dec 2015 #2
You are RIGHT about this. . . . BigDemVoter Dec 2015 #53
More than a daily occurance Johnny2X2X Dec 2015 #54
And the first thing I thought of was "Hope the PP workers and patients are safe" randys1 Dec 2015 #56
If Sandy Hook didn't wake people up... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2015 #68
Oh damn Hekate Dec 2015 #3
... randys1 Dec 2015 #4
No mention on CNN as of this post... Guess they're taking the attitude of nothing out of the ordina Photographer Dec 2015 #5
That address is near a Planned Parenthood. Brickbat Dec 2015 #6
Looks like it's 1.5 miles away. valerief Dec 2015 #55
Crap. nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2015 #7
That's near the Inland Regional Center - a medical center, a strip mall, and the public golf course. haele Dec 2015 #8
It looks like it's Orange Show Road and Waterman herding cats Dec 2015 #16
A friend in Canada said 20 dead malaise Dec 2015 #9
life becomes cheaper in America olddots Dec 2015 #10
Huband of witness spoke about bodies malaise Dec 2015 #15
Never. It will never stop. Initech Dec 2015 #22
Forever war meet forever crime. leveymg Dec 2015 #32
What happens when foreign policy comes home malaise Dec 2015 #71
That is inevitable. Militarization of policing and universal profiling leveymg Dec 2015 #72
it won't Skittles Dec 2015 #44
I watched the police bring some of them out and it looks like jwirr Dec 2015 #47
It will stop only when the gunz are gone, hifiguy Dec 2015 #51
ABC UPDATE: 1-3 active shooters sought Jarqui Dec 2015 #11
CBS news is livestreaming Marrah_G Dec 2015 #12
I'm watching this on the telly right now.. one_voice Dec 2015 #13
At least 12 dead... Reported Are_grits_groceries Dec 2015 #14
Medical complex for people with disabilities malaise Dec 2015 #17
Inland Regional Center- Services for the developmentally disabled. Marrah_G Dec 2015 #18
Bomb squad moved into building Marrah_G Dec 2015 #25
sounds like tea party terrorists Union Label Dec 2015 #50
Planned Parenthood clinic reporting they are not involved ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #19
Maybe they mistook the regional center for PP. nt thereismore Dec 2015 #31
If these are multiple shooters wearing body armor ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #33
That is my thought. These terrorists are not all that bright. jwirr Dec 2015 #48
So, a Wednesday then Prism Dec 2015 #20
Just another accident on I-80... apparently, we are at that point JCMach1 Dec 2015 #21
May be a government agency, 1-3 shooters. CNN commentator used the "T" word. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #23
Saw stretchers on CBS - covered malaise Dec 2015 #24
KTLA showing bodies in the street chalmers Dec 2015 #26
"12 fatalities" according to local news. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #27
Reports of an explosive device found Are_grits_groceries Dec 2015 #28
Currently 3 people with rifles and masks (maybe body armor) Jarqui Dec 2015 #29
Must read for breaking news stories Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2015 #30
10. Don't Trust Fox news. Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #35
I'm hearing this area is a very Hispanic area of San Bernardino. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #34
San Bernardino is 60% Hispanic. KamaAina Dec 2015 #45
Any word on a motive? nt jonno99 Dec 2015 #36
Well if they are shooting up group homes for developmentally jwirr Dec 2015 #49
Sometimes I think... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2015 #70
San Brnardino Police Scanner Live Link MohRokTah Dec 2015 #37
Oh! Crap! MineralMan Dec 2015 #38
NBC has it at around 20 wounded and 3 dead. So far from NBC on ground. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #39
It's an everyday occurrence in this open-air loony-bin of a society. hifiguy Dec 2015 #40
NBC Cameraman asked to leave the area. 3 confirmed dead. Suspect wearing tactical LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #41
But there would have been 50 victims if he had a hammer. RandySF Dec 2015 #42
Now you're taking away the gun apologists' argument! nt valerief Dec 2015 #63
Cue the gun worshippers talking about mental health. Vinca Dec 2015 #43
275 people killed this year in multiple victim shootings. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #46
Another terrorist attack. B Calm Dec 2015 #52
Is it terrorism yet? Or is it just another few bad white apples? n/t 2pooped2pop Dec 2015 #57
Not even the first mass shooting...OF THE DAY!! bullwinkle428 Dec 2015 #58
My boss just received an email from her counterpart down there KamaAina Dec 2015 #59
I'm on scanner and heard nothing of this... trumad Dec 2015 #60
I heard it on the scanner. Glassunion Dec 2015 #64
We should be getting kind of used to this by now. Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #61
Per KTLA, some San Bernardino County employees were having a holiday awards event there KamaAina Dec 2015 #62
The Yukon has been found abandoned nearby. KamaAina Dec 2015 #65
All schools in the city of San Bernardino are on lockdown. KamaAina Dec 2015 #67
Press conference on now KamaAina Dec 2015 #69
This, too was on the German TV news DFW Dec 2015 #66

BigDemVoter

(4,157 posts)
53. You are RIGHT about this. . . .
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:00 PM
Dec 2015

I don't even bat an eye when I hear about shootings nowadays, as it seems to be an almost daily occurrence. . . . What's strange is that nobody seems to care or have any desire to change things to stop this kind of shit.

Johnny2X2X

(19,135 posts)
54. More than a daily occurance
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:03 PM
Dec 2015

There are 331 days elapsed in this year, this is the 351st mass shooting to occur.

 

Photographer

(1,142 posts)
5. No mention on CNN as of this post... Guess they're taking the attitude of nothing out of the ordina
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:32 PM
Dec 2015

Add: They just mentioned it at 1:32 PM CST

valerief

(53,235 posts)
55. Looks like it's 1.5 miles away.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:07 PM
Dec 2015

11 min (1.5 miles)
via S Waterman Ave and E Hospitality Ln
4 min without traffic

Inland Regional Center
1365 South Waterman Avenue, San Bernardino, CA 92408
Head north on S Waterman Ave toward Park Center Cir
0.1 mi
Make a U-turn at E Dumas St
Continue to follow S Waterman Ave
0.8 mi
Turn right onto E Hospitality Ln
0.4 mi
Turn right onto Commercenter Dr W
Destination will be on the right
0.1 mi
Planned Parenthood - San Bernardino Health Center

haele

(12,682 posts)
8. That's near the Inland Regional Center - a medical center, a strip mall, and the public golf course.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:36 PM
Dec 2015

Park Center is a small road that goes around the medical center.
Sigh....
Guess where the shooter probably is.

Haele

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
16. It looks like it's Orange Show Road and Waterman
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:44 PM
Dec 2015

The PP is further south at Waterman and E. Hospitality. Basically, this is the other side of the golf course from where the medical center is if this is correct.

San Bernardino police confirmed around 11:30 a.m. there was an active shooter in the area of Orange Show Road / Waterman Avenue near Park Center Circle.

The San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department warned people to avoid the area due to police activity.

A “hard closure” was in effect at Orange Show Road / Waterman Avenue and Park Center Circle in San Bernardino, the Sheriff’s Department tweeted.
http://ktla.com/2015/12/02/authorities-respond-to-20-victim-shooting-incident-in-san-bernardino-fire-dept/

malaise

(269,193 posts)
15. Huband of witness spoke about bodies
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:44 PM
Dec 2015

on CNN -Jebus fugging Krist - when will this stop???

They are looking for three fucking suspects. I hope it's not the kids with disabilities who were slaughtered here - we're days away from the anniversary of the Sandy Hook slaughter.

Initech

(100,107 posts)
22. Never. It will never stop.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:57 PM
Dec 2015

Did you see the article about Black Friday gun sales?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7401285

They had their best year ever according to the FBI. It will never stop. More shootings means more talk of gun control which means more excuses for the NRA to spin the propaganda wheel which means nothing will get done in Congress. Something needs to break this cycle.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
32. Forever war meet forever crime.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:12 PM
Dec 2015

It's like a script out of a bad Zombie Apocalypse cable series.

Body armour underwear for pre-schoolers.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
72. That is inevitable. Militarization of policing and universal profiling
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 07:59 PM
Dec 2015

Are parts of it. So is desensitization to mass killing, hence the zombie movies. Shoot em in the head or nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. And all that.

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
44. it won't
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:29 PM
Dec 2015

gun humpers have won and this is the new norm......they get more upset with being called gun humpers than they do by incidents like this

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
47. I watched the police bring some of them out and it looks like
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:41 PM
Dec 2015

an adult care center.

I have a feeling that we have an ignorant shooter who did not know the area well. One medical facility looks like another type thing.

Targeting one hitting another.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
51. It will stop only when the gunz are gone,
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:50 PM
Dec 2015

and in this terminally fucked-up society that means NEVER.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
11. ABC UPDATE: 1-3 active shooters sought
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:42 PM
Dec 2015
https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/672137122225119232
ABC7 Eyewitness NewsVerified account ?@ABC7 5m5 minutes ago
UPDATE: 1-3 active shooters sought; San Bernardino authorities still working to secure the scene http://abc7.la/1TvYXCp

NBC: @SanBernardinoPD confirms 1 to 3 possible suspects.Multiple victims.
https://twitter.com/NBCLA/status/672138444248883200

Can't wait for the sick GOP racists to spin this one.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
14. At least 12 dead... Reported
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:44 PM
Dec 2015

BREAKING NEWS: At least 12 dead in San Bernardino mass shooting bit.ly/1QfasxZ

The teevee shots are showing bodies. Trying to keep it on delay.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
25. Bomb squad moved into building
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:03 PM
Dec 2015

Bomb squad on the scene to deal with an explosive device, people and 1st responders being moved away from the building.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
20. So, a Wednesday then
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 03:48 PM
Dec 2015

I actually worry that this is becoming almost too normalized. That the collective public will become numb to it over time. Just another part of living in America.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
23. May be a government agency, 1-3 shooters. CNN commentator used the "T" word.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:00 PM
Dec 2015

Remember, this is a breaking story and any or all of this may be false.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
28. Reports of an explosive device found
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:05 PM
Dec 2015
JUST IN: Bomb squad in the process of attempting to neutralize apparent explosive device in San Bernardino, law enforcement source says.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
29. Currently 3 people with rifles and masks (maybe body armor)
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:10 PM
Dec 2015

None apprehended yet

12 dead

more than 20 injured

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
34. I'm hearing this area is a very Hispanic area of San Bernardino.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:12 PM
Dec 2015

Also hearing three guys with masks and each wore a different colored shirt (red, green, and yellow).

Possible body armor.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
49. Well if they are shooting up group homes for developmentally
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:46 PM
Dec 2015

disabled persons now it must be Rs trying to save the taxpayers money.

And no I am not being totally sarcastic.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
70. Sometimes I think...
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 06:11 PM
Dec 2015

that the people that really run this country want this. They want chaos so they can continue to fuck us over with nary a peep out of us. Part of me also thinks that JFK was a warning. When that didn't take, then they did RFK and MLK to really make their point. What has any president since that time done anything that really helped the average American economically

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
40. It's an everyday occurrence in this open-air loony-bin of a society.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:23 PM
Dec 2015

The toxic stew of fascist propaganda, plain old stupidity, idjit religion and ready access to gunz of all kinds can't yield any other result.

This society is fucked up beyond repair.

Vinca

(50,312 posts)
43. Cue the gun worshippers talking about mental health.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:28 PM
Dec 2015

My first reaction to this was to close my eyes and hold back tears. I won't cry because it's a waste of time . We're sitting ducks. The people in charge of running this country know we're sitting ducks. And nothing gets done. Ever. I've gone from sad to mad in under 15 minutes.

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
46. 275 people killed this year in multiple victim shootings.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:29 PM
Dec 2015

280,000 people killed since 2005-2013 by guns Per NBC News

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
58. Not even the first mass shooting...OF THE DAY!!
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:11 PM
Dec 2015


4 people shot, 1 killed, in Savannah, GA this morning. (reported by NBC news)
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
59. My boss just received an email from her counterpart down there
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:13 PM
Dec 2015

there are now reports of gunfire at nearby Patton State Hospital.

http://www.dsh.ca.gov/Patton/default.asp

The Department of State Hospitals-Patton is a forensic psychiatric hospital located in Patton, CA, in San Bernardino County. DSH-Patton was established in 1890 and opened in 1893. DSH-Patton provides treatment to forensically and civilly committed patients within a secure treatment area. The hospital does not accept voluntary admissions.


Oh, and our sister agency down there is on lockdown, despite being a mile and a half from the regional center.

Crunchy Frog

(26,658 posts)
61. We should be getting kind of used to this by now.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:16 PM
Dec 2015

This is how things are in America today. Long live the 2nd Amendment.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
65. The Yukon has been found abandoned nearby.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:28 PM
Dec 2015

About halfway between the regional center and our sister agency.

Meanwhile, the county building has been evacuated, causing the cancellation of an emergency Board of Supervisors meeting.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
67. All schools in the city of San Bernardino are on lockdown.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:47 PM
Dec 2015

KTLA anchor: "It sounds as though San Bernardino County is one step away from martial law."

edit: city, not county

DFW

(54,445 posts)
66. This, too was on the German TV news
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 05:47 PM
Dec 2015

I'm amazed there hasn't been any report of Europeans getting nervous about traveling to the USA. Maybe they're getting as used to these reports as we are. They sure as hell react differently when it happens at home.

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