General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust Curious - How Much Money Is Required To Purchase The Large Amount Of Ammo These Two....
had on their possession and in their home? How easy is it to purchase such a large amount? Wouldn't someone get suspicious of someone purchasing this large amount of ammo? Why would one need that large amount of ammo for only the four guns that were found on these two? Did they find other firearms at the home?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)No, 'cause it's not like they're buying a large amount of Sudafed or anything like that.
Pathetically true.
hack89
(39,171 posts)It is a lot cheaper. It is common and not suspicious.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)legitimate, but I have no problem at all profiling lethal weapons and ammo purchasers. They have no problem accumulating the darn things and using them against the best interests of society.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)White person buys ammo-Have a nice day
Black person buys ammo-He looks suspicious. File a report.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I doubt they purchased them all at once, but over time, which would be less suspicious. If you are a dedicated shooter, you likely purchase ammunition often. They are consumable after all.
hack89
(39,171 posts)A family of four can easily go through a thousand rounds in a weekend.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)He had thousands of rounds for every one of his many weapons.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)if you are training on one of those urban warfare ranges, or training to shoot people -- yeah you'll need a lot of ammo like the militia types.
I don't think it is unreasonable to ask gun nuts to reign it back. Heck all that lead is an environmental pollutant and gun powder stinks, not to mention gunz polluting society.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)You seem to have an odd sense of "need", but I do appreciate the comedic relief your gun posts provide.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I really don't get Dems who do.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)take it up with the gun yahoos, just like folks did with cigarettes, confederate flags, pollution, and the like.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)It's a bit of simple arithmetic:
total number of rounds = {(total shooters)/(fraction of hits per shots fired)}*(number of scary dark people to kill)
Let's say that you have three people with guns who shoot with an accuracy of 10% lethality (0.10) and you want kill 200 "targets":
Total rounds = (3/0.10)*200 = 6000
The number goes up substantially if you want to "kill them all."
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)I am not letting you waste any of MY ammo!
If you are fending off the "invasion", there is probably going to be a logistics problem on resupplies. Thus you are going to need more ammo to start with.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)atreides1
(16,091 posts)1000 9mm rounds, FMJ costs 220.00! When you buy in bulk!
http://www.luckygunner.com/handgun/9mm-ammo
That sounds about right on the price.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Depending on brand, bullet grain, etc.
Price will fluctuate with availability, but .223 is a pretty common round (I assume, as the rifles that make use of it are popular -- I'm not a gun owner), so I doubt it get much more expensive that I'm seeing right now.
The rifles, on the other hand, those probably weren't cheap. Where he got the money for them is beyond me.
1939
(1,683 posts)Most gun dealers will sell them new at a discount
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)An average cost for an AR is probably about $750. High-end ones can go WAY up from there, but that's a small part of the market. They're pretty inexpensive as rifles go. That much money buys you a mid-range hunting rifle from one of the big makers.
Paramilitary semi-automatics aren't my thing (I'm a rifle competitor, but in different kinds of competition than you'd use an AR for...my rifles are bolt-action), but there are several million of them out there. Very popular...
Waldorf
(654 posts)about $980 for the parts. I didn't go cheap on some of the parts. During the Thanksgiving Holiday I saw some sales for a complete upper assembly as low as $299.
Response to global1 (Original post)
Glassunion This message was self-deleted by its author.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)This is a mystery and we all love a mysyery and there will be many more mysterys untill we solve the gun mystery .We have the A.T.F. and still people smoke and drink themselves to death.
msongs
(67,438 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Many innocent people are killed by alcohol ever year.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)I think we are going to find out that this couple got radicalized.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)Bonhomme Richard
(9,000 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)If they can't get rid of ammo. Make new safe guns with new re-sized bullets. Those will be the new guns that are covered by the 2nd. Make gun owners pay insurance, and register their weapon and ammo. Put the burden of owning a gun on THEM! Eventually they'll run out of ammo and have to buy the new safe guns.
Give everyone 2 years tops to either get rid of their old unsafe guns and ammo. Those that don't comply should get 20 years minimum in a Federal prison.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)I go to a dealership once a month, pick up old lead wheel weights, and make my bullets from that.
shanti
(21,675 posts)won't be doing that, you know. kind of like most cannabis users won't be growing their own.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)of the firist one.
branford
(4,462 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)If I buy a policy then go shoot up a McDonald's because I had a bad day at work, they're not going to pay a single cent to anybody.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Courts have already ruled that you can't ban ammo as a backdoor attempt to ban guns.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)at Walmart. There were a few questions asked, by the manager, but since it was for a target shoot event, that was the extent of it. And the questions were rare. Usually they go, you want 10 boxes, sure, bring a cart, this is heavy.
And they have not found any other fire arms, but they did find other ammo for a long gun... paraphrasing what the chief said in the morning. I will not speculate any.
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)and that includes weapons and bombs that will have DNA and fingerprints.
They've said that "friends" bought weapons for them.
Shrek
(3,983 posts)It isn't that hard to make relatively small purchases and stockpile it. The shelf life is pretty long.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)when purchased in bulk like that, you're looking at around $0.50 a round or about that.
9mm ammo, a pistol round, is also commonly sold in 1000 round boxes, and you're probably looking at $0.25 to $0.30 per round when purchased in quantity.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)buying thousands of rounds of ammo??
Calista241
(5,586 posts)if you buy in bulk, the price of 223 ammo can be as low as $0.44 per round. If you buy smaller quantities, say a box of 100 rounds, you're looking at a much higher price per round, around $1.00 each.
If you spend an hour at the range, you can easily consume 500+ rounds. People buy these guns so they can shoot them, and it can be an expensive hobby.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)I guess whatever turns you on.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)But people do seem to enjoy it.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)I usually shoot about 300 rounds in less than an hour when I go to the range. Cost is about $15 for a box of 50 rounds so it is sort of pricey.
librechik
(30,676 posts)If you are target shooting, you could go through 1000 rounds in a couple of minutes. So for more target shooting fun, more bullets.
I guess...
ileus
(15,396 posts)Waldorf
(654 posts).30 cents a round. And a lot of people buy ammo in bulk, as it's much cheaper and you only pay one shipping fee.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Depending on quality and quantity. The military-spec stuff you can buy cheap in bulk; the premium expanding bonded fancy stuff costs more.
Figure about a buck to three bucks for rifle round.
The cheap .22 rimfire stuff is only a few cents a round and comes in 500-round boxes. It's used mostly for plinking and practice, as it's cheap and low-powered.
"2,000 rounds of ammo" could be 4 bulk boxes of .22 ammo that cost maybe $100. Or it could be premium .223 rifle ammo that totals over four grand.
Also, the stuff has an effectively unlimited shelf life. It's not milk, after all.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Its not like they intended to pay off the debt anyway
1939
(1,683 posts)Maybe 50-60 rounds of pistol ammo per range day (otherwise your hand will hurt like hell).
Figure 100-150 rounds per rifle range day.
Hand hurting after 50 rounds? On a very light .380, sure.
I have fired 250 shots easily in a day and felt just fine.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Neither will any of the other maniac bastards that stockpiled that shit. You have to wonder
why they thought they would need that much when after using a relatively few bullets they
must have known they would be shot dead by the cops.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Response to global1 (Original post)
Name removed Message auto-removed