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maxrandb

(15,345 posts) Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:16 AM Dec 2015

I urge the President to sign the Bill defunding PP and the ACA

The President should call the Republicans bluff and sign the Senate Bill defunding Planned Parenthood and Repealing the Affordable Care Act if the House sends it to his desk.

If you haven’t been paying attention, the Senate just passed via resolution (not subject to filibuster) a transportation funding bill that includes provisions to defund Planned Parenthood and gut the Affordable Care Act.

Of course, the President has said he will veto this bill if it gets through the House and reaches his desk.

I say, “screw that”…sign it. Give the people what they want.
In a very public setting, the President should say; “well, it appears that these two programs, PP and ACA are not important enough to the people who need them for them to get out and vote during Mid-term elections, and since I’ve read somewhere that there really is no difference between the parties and we’re all just corporate shills, I’m going to go ahead and sign this legislation. I look forward to seeing the Republican Tea Bagging alternatives to these programs”.

For those who seem to think that we just have to show the American people how terrible Repukes and Tea-Baggers are and they will stop voting against their own interest, here's a perfect opportunity.

Join me in urging the President to sign the bill defunding Planned Parenthood and the ACA.

At least at a minimum, we would get what we did...or didn't vote for.

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I urge the President to sign the Bill defunding PP and the ACA (Original Post) maxrandb Dec 2015 OP

We have to destroy the country to save it? No, thanks anyway. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #1

Millions and millions of Americans would suffer immediately. Rex Dec 2015 #7

Don't worry ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #14

Don't appease Robert Lewis Dear and those who radicalized him ck4829 Dec 2015 #2

I understand your frustration... Phentex Dec 2015 #3

No, let's not be as callous and shortsighted as the dimwitted Republicans. nt procon Dec 2015 #4

..... shraby Dec 2015 #5

Brown's fan. trumad Dec 2015 #6

Sounds like a conservative tactic Kalidurga Dec 2015 #8

Ummmmm. No. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #9

I was thinking this same thing but the GOP is too wedded to sitting around doing nothing. So no. randome Dec 2015 #10

So just let people DIE to prove the point? Glitterati Dec 2015 #11

It's a different form of revolution is what it is Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #12

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha, sacrifice? Glitterati Dec 2015 #15

That assumes I have no skin in the game Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #18

Like it or not, we ALL have skin in this game Glitterati Dec 2015 #20

Do you mean "requires sacrifices of other PEOPLE"? MH1 Dec 2015 #17

The Nader crowd would be happy ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2015 #13

WoW!!!! - That Sure Is Some Three Dimensional Chess Alright.....(sarcasm) nt global1 Dec 2015 #16

Hell no Bradical79 Dec 2015 #19

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)

1. We have to destroy the country to save it? No, thanks anyway.

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:18 AM

Dec 2015

There are many REAL people who would be harmed. Immediately.

Rex

(65,616 posts)

7. Millions and millions of Americans would suffer immediately.

Reply to KittyWampus (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:34 AM

Dec 2015

Agree, bad idea.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)

14. Don't worry

Reply to Rex (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:57 AM

Dec 2015

The M$M won't say peep about them so Mr and Mrs America can watch the Kardashians and football blissfully unaware.

ck4829

(35,079 posts)

2. Don't appease Robert Lewis Dear and those who radicalized him

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:19 AM

Dec 2015

Phentex

(16,334 posts)

3. I understand your frustration...

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:22 AM

Dec 2015

but this will not bring about change.

Tax the churches that want to be involved in public policy. Have these taxes fund programs for people who need them.

procon

(15,805 posts)

4. No, let's not be as callous and shortsighted as the dimwitted Republicans. nt

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:28 AM

Dec 2015

shraby

(21,946 posts)

5. .....

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:29 AM

Dec 2015

Need I say more?

trumad

(41,692 posts)

6. Brown's fan.

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 10:30 AM

Dec 2015

Figures

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)

8. Sounds like a conservative tactic

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:02 AM

Dec 2015

and those things never work as planned.

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)

9. Ummmmm. No.

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:04 AM

Dec 2015

Wait. I meant fuck no, no fucking way.

randome

(34,845 posts)

10. I was thinking this same thing but the GOP is too wedded to sitting around doing nothing. So no.

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:08 AM

Dec 2015

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Glitterati

(3,182 posts)

11. So just let people DIE to prove the point?

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:41 AM

Dec 2015

Seriously? I'm sorry, but those are some pathetically mixed up priorities.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)

12. It's a different form of revolution is what it is

Reply to Glitterati (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:45 AM

Dec 2015

There's a lot of complaining about revolution v pragmatism around these parts these days, but there are layers to each of them.

There will continue to be a growing segment of folks wanting the harder revolution, the type that requires sacrifices of different kinds. This is one of those kinds.

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)

15. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha, sacrifice?

Reply to Blue_Adept (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:00 PM

Dec 2015

OMG, how nice of you willing to sacrifice OTHERS.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)

18. That assumes I have no skin in the game

Reply to Glitterati (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:24 PM

Dec 2015

Which is never a good assumption to make.

Now, I didn't say I was for it or against it. I'm simply presenting one of the variations to the theme at hand.

This is called discussion.

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)

20. Like it or not, we ALL have skin in this game

Reply to Blue_Adept (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:30 PM

Dec 2015

and I don't appreciate ANYONE playing these kinds of games with human lives.

MH1

(17,600 posts)

17. Do you mean "requires sacrifices of other PEOPLE"?

Reply to Blue_Adept (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:02 PM

Dec 2015

Because I suspect the OP is not one who feels they would be substantially impacted themselves. Or even if they are willing to make the personal sacrifice themselves, they do not have loved ones who would have skin in the game. It's one thing to say "ok I can handle it", quite another to say, "yeah my daughter/sister/mother will be hit hard but that's just a sacrifice she'll have to make". But VERY easy to just shrug and say "some sacrifices will be required" when you don't know or haven't even thought about the actual human beings who will be doing the sacrificing.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)

13. The Nader crowd would be happy

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:54 AM

Dec 2015

"HA! We were RIGHT!"

global1

(25,263 posts)

16. WoW!!!! - That Sure Is Some Three Dimensional Chess Alright.....(sarcasm) nt

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:02 PM

Dec 2015

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)

19. Hell no

Reply to maxrandb (Original post)

Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:24 PM

Dec 2015

If "the people" really want that, they can elect a Republican president in 2016. I'm not interested in sacrificing other people to make a political point that doesn't need to be made.

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