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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA shocking statistic about gun deaths in the US
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/4/9851102/gun-deaths-us-childrenchart showing percentage of gun deaths that are children
That comes from a 2011 analysis of 2003 mortality data from members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a group of wealthy, developed nations. It found that in general, Americans were killed by guns far more frequently than people in the other 22 countries, including Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom, France, and Hungary. They were also more likely to be killed, period: The American homicide rate was seven times the rate of the other 22 countries.
The other findings underscore, in the wake of the San Bernardino massacre, that this is a uniquely American problem:
Firearm homicide rates in the US were 20 times higher than in the other countries studied.
American teenagers and young adults, ages 15 through 24, were 43 times more likely to be killed by a gun than their counterparts in other wealthy, developed countries.
Among the 23 countries with a combined population of 854 million people, the US had roughly one-third of the people and 80 percent of the gun deaths.
Regardless of whether mass killings like the one in San Bernardino are becoming more frequent, they happen far more in the US than anywhere else.
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)You can take away our younger generation DAMNIT, but don't take away or restrict our guns in any way.
Those statistics cited in that article are going to continue climbing at an accelerated rate. There is no escape.
God Bless America!
doc03
(35,340 posts)rifle with a 3 shot magazine and 6 shot revolvers there is no way they could have killed and wounded that many people.
How f---g hard is that for people to understand?
Waldorf
(654 posts)This guy shot a 6 round revolver (with reload in the middle) twelve times in under 3 seconds.
doc03
(35,340 posts)can be fired. Well if your point is how many rounds you can shoot in a revolver you should be able to agree you don't need a
semi-auto.
Waldorf
(654 posts)with a revolver. All I did was show you that was incorrect statement.
doc03
(35,340 posts)about some extreme case where some expert can. Well Chuck Norris could have killed the whole population of LA barehanded.
Waldorf
(654 posts)One, I notice we aren't shown if he actually hit anything he was aiming it. Two, this is tantamount to saying that we don't need calculators because some people are able to do calculations as fast as Rainman. yes, the literal world record holder at this activity would be able to, if he actually is an accurate shooter, approximate what the typical person can do with one of these guns.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Waldorf
(654 posts)could not be shot quick enough do kill/injure this many people. All I did was link a clip showing that it can indeed be done. Could I shoot and reload my revolver like that? No. But if somebody constantly trains to get quicker? Yes.
Logical
(22,457 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)AR-15 style rifles are standard hunting rifles for small game.
Going with your hypothosis, in what way would your limits have changed the numbers of dead and wounded?
doc03
(35,340 posts)Waldorf
(654 posts)more than 3 rounds (chamber and magazine combined).
doc03
(35,340 posts)rounds in the gun when hunting.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)are a bit abnormal. Not necessarily bad, just not normal when compared with elsewhere.
doc03
(35,340 posts)of time. When they had to stop and reload someone could have disabled them. I hunted small game all my life with a
bolt action .22 and a slide action 12 gauge. Never felt handicapped.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)But it is based on statistics from 12 years ago. Which seems odd. Notably, this study based on deaths 12 years ago showed that the U.S. homicide rate was 7 times higher than in other countries, regardless of the weapon. In other words, we have a violence problem that supersedes the gun problem (or contributes to that problem).
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Aristus
(66,380 posts)it would have happened after Sandy Hook. Which is to say, they will never change their minds...
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Yes, the "rates" make things sensational. The actual numbers, not so much.
Deaths, ages 0-14
USA = 378
other = 58
Yes, even one death is tragic; but that is not topic of the thread.
dsc
(52,162 posts)and we thought that was a pretty big deal.
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)Maybe things will improve.
Photographer
(1,142 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)We forget about them. Over 110,000 people are shot or killed each year.
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Tim McVeigh didn't use a fn gun. It's the terrorist with the twisted demented ideology that kills people.