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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 07:34 AM Dec 2015

Gun control: New York Times runs front page editorial for first time since 1920

The New York Times has used its first front-page editorial in nearly a century to call for greater gun regulation in the wake of the California shooting massacre.

Publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr said the newspaper was running its first page-one editorial since 1920 on Saturday to “deliver a strong and visible statement of frustration and anguish about our country’s inability to come to terms with the scourge of guns”.


The editorial states: “It is a moral outrage and a national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed specifically to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency.

“These are weapons of war, barely modified and deliberately marketed as tools of macho vigilantism and even insurrection. America’s elected leaders offer prayers for gun victims and then, callously and without fear of consequence, reject the most basic restrictions on weapons of mass killing, as they did on Thursday. They distract us with arguments about the word terrorism. Let’s be clear: these spree killings are all, in their own ways, acts of terrorism.”


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Gun control: New York Times runs front page editorial for first time since 1920 (Original Post) octoberlib Dec 2015 OP
Just wanted to add that octoberlib Dec 2015 #1
Ditto ananda Dec 2015 #14
It needs to be on the front page of every newspaper in this country! boston bean Dec 2015 #2
If they really cared StoneCarver Dec 2015 #3
I suggested this less than a week ago. There should be a required government database that anyone MillennialDem Dec 2015 #10
absolutely. of course it has to be in the guardian. drray23 Dec 2015 #4
And I care what the NYT editorial staff have to say because...........................? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #5
Journalism as the fourth estate RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #7
Tell me why I should care. AngryAmish Dec 2015 #6
A great editorial Chiquitita Dec 2015 #8
Just more background noise. AngryOldDem Dec 2015 #9
good-- this country needs to break the back of the fucking NRA Fast Walker 52 Dec 2015 #11
WE as a society............................. turbinetree Dec 2015 #12
K&R nt stage left Dec 2015 #13
which we'll all link to again the next time this happens MisterP Dec 2015 #15
While in any upstate NY gun store you need to take a number. jmg257 Dec 2015 #16
 

StoneCarver

(249 posts)
3. If they really cared
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:22 AM
Dec 2015

they would run pictures of the bodies of the mass slayings. If the media (print or other) would have shown pictures of the little kids killed (at school) in Newtown, -there would be such a public shock and outrage -it would all be over. Period. The first responders are still suffering PTSD from seeing those scenes. But they choose to write a full page editorial. WTF?
Stonecarver
p.s. I'm a very happy gun owner of multiple firearms, but rights have reasonable limits.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
10. I suggested this less than a week ago. There should be a required government database that anyone
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:59 AM
Dec 2015

can access of the photos of those deceased in shootings of 4 or more individuals where at least 1 (including the gunman/men) dies.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
4. absolutely. of course it has to be in the guardian.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:23 AM
Dec 2015

most US newspaper would not dare questionning the NRA lobby. The easy access to gun not only makes it easy for random altercations to turn into murders, it also facilitate suicides.
I would argue it is even a boon for terrorists. In europe they had to smuggle assault rifles to carry out the paris attacks. In this country all they need to do is get their people in (or radicalize some that are already there). They can just go to the gun store buy the arsenal they need perfectly legaly. Of course since congress has refused for decades to tighten gun laws there is no database of gun registration, not even research into gun violence.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
7. Journalism as the fourth estate
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:45 AM
Dec 2015

should help report things, and help people form opinions.
Granted, they have not been doing this in the past thirty or so years, but when they do, they should be listened to.
Perhaps they see a bit more of this than you do.

Chiquitita

(752 posts)
8. A great editorial
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:47 AM
Dec 2015

I felt a wave of hope reading the comments and seeing that there are so many rational people.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
9. Just more background noise.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:54 AM
Dec 2015

Sorry. I wish I could welcome reading common sense.

But right now I'm pretty much resigned that nothing will ever change in this country. We will never learn. (Sandy Hook was the tipping point on this for me -- if this society could not be moved by the murder of 23 innocents, then what else is there to say?) There will always be an excuse to not do something. Politicians will always be held hostage to special interests and their own desires to keep their seats in Washington and the statehouses.

All I can do now -- short of holing myself up in my house and not going anywhere for the rest of my life -- is to hope that when I am out, I am not in a wrong place at the wrong time, and if it so happens I am, that the Man Upstairs, whom I'm told to pray to, isn't on some kind of cosmic coffee break or otherwise elsewhere engaged and will come miraculously to my aid.

Such is the state of life in these United States anymore. We love our guns more than we love humanity.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
12. WE as a society.............................
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:25 AM
Dec 2015

need to confront the NRA, the gun manufacturer, the ammo dealers and suppliers and especially the CONGRESSIONAL SPINELESS HYPOCRITES making $174,000.00 a year who are saying NO to protect this society they have no morality to to say they want to "PROTECT LIFE" by passing legislation for example to cause problems and deny health care services for men and woman, for failing to perform there job description on authorizing funds to a war campaign going on over in the Middle East, and then having the audacity to say the following:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/01/paul-ryan-background-checks_n_3192136.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/29/paul-ryan-gun-shows_n_2575474.html

And failing on your logic to not pass gun control legislation-------------and just for historical facts the second amendment was not what is being chimed today to its representation-----------------Maybe you and others should read what Patrick Henry said about gun legislation it was about----------------slaves



You are a god damn hypocrite Ryan, you are making $223,500 a year and every week you are getting paid by the taxpayers to go home and see your children, that you always harp about ( good for you) but fourteen family members will not be having a loved one come home again ever, because your corruption has blood on your god damn hands and you are irresponsible and spew you cacophony society of logic




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jmg257

(11,996 posts)
16. While in any upstate NY gun store you need to take a number.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:35 PM
Dec 2015

Lots of 1st time buyers at the counters.

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