Keep in mind that those making a huge deal of this being a "Muslim problem" are the potentially violent rightwingers who happen to be Christian.

but with many off the wall evangelicals getting a lot of air time often with politicians, they damage the "brand."

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The only difference at this moment is the lack of an official call for violence by Christian sects. It's happened in the past, and it could happen again.

And it's not like Muslims as a whole are calling of a jihad against all non-Muslims.

abortions, for all women (but not the men) who commit adultery, for obstreperous teens. oh, I guess it doesn't count because the "leadership" isn't doing the calling. ssdd.

That was my immediate thought also. If nothing else, the unsupported statement, "no organization of Christians is calling..." certainly illustrates how bias can so absolutely blind us to such obvious messages communicated by religious leaders via every mechanism other than verbal (e.g., 'Physician Wanted' posters), or how easily organizations such as The Army of God (an underground terrorist organization as per both Homeland and the DoJ) can be forgotten if we are unable to fit their existence into our prejudices.

He was born into Christianity and had small interactions with it in his life, but it played zero role in the OKC attack.

Regarding the others, I'm not aware of anyone who doesn't know these guys had Christian ideology behind their crimes. Hardly what I'd call downplayed in that regard.

terrorists. This is not the time.

Cuz it's NEVER the time to say Christian Terrorist in America, no matter how true it is.

They refuse to acknowledge acts of terror carried out by followers of radical Christianity (because it's their own people who are carrying out those acts).

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It was a family joke...knowing how to hold your mouth...it helped you get things done.

Are you the arbiter of who is or isn't a Christian? Besides, if it's only "9 or 10" folks out of the millions here in America that aren't REAL Christians... That's really not that many at all.

You are assuming a lot with your characterization of how well versed I may or may not be in things biblical.

Eric Rudolph and Scott Roeder were just closet atheists not at all motivated by belief eh? Arthur Shelton just disagreed with his roommate over sugar in his porridge?

And if you'd like to compare biblical knowledge with me, please tell me when and how you'd like to do that.

This BS about "True christians™" and who is or isn't is just what the christianists put out there. I don't care if they followed all the tenets or did all the rosaries. If they claim to be christian, they are christian. Otherwise, all others who make that claim are lying.

Maybe we ought to outlaw right-wing fundamentalism instead. This way, moderate and liberal Christians won't run afoul of the law.

McVeigh was an anti-government nut. He wasn't killing in the name of God, in his mind he was killing in the name of freedom.

If Syed Farook had snapped over some work-related issue and then gone and shot up his workplace, he would've been a terrorist who happened to be Muslim.

However, since Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik shot up his workplace in the name of God and to show support for ISIS, they were Muslim terrorists.

LALALALA! WORKPLACE VIOLENCE! I CANT HEAR ANYTHING ELSE! LALALA!

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