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applegrove

(118,845 posts)
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:48 PM Dec 2015

“People are armed to the hilt”: Inside the paranoid right-wing reality—where terrorists are literall

“People are armed to the hilt”: Inside the paranoid right-wing reality—where terrorists are literally everywhere

by Matthew Pulver at Salon

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/07/people_are_armed_to_the_hilt_inside_the_paranoid_right_wing_reality_where_terrorists_are_literally_everywhere/

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But it wouldn’t be a conversation with a Fox News-watching rural white American without conflating the Islamic terrorism threat with Barack Obama. “And I can also tell you this,” Christy continues. “You know, Obama talkin’ about takin’ guns…I know a lot of people that are in motorcycle gangs–clubs, not gangs, clubs–but their clubhouses are locked and stocked. I mean, they are loaded with ammo. They’re prepared.”

Prepared for what, again? ISIS or Obama? Also, did Christy just snitch on an illegal motorcycle gang? (Club! I meant club!) Right, one of those motorcycle “clubs” armed like Seal Team 6. But it’s a Muslim man peacefully praying that we’re supposed to scared of.

So Christy has revealed that her world is one of racist, Islamophobic paramilitary motorcycle gangs who arm themselves according to conspiracy theories about our president. This is where Walter will start to distance herself from the caller, lest Fox News be seen to validate that sort of thinking. Right?

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A long time ago, back in the quaint, halcyon days of 2008, a guy like Senator John McCain would push back on the worst impulses of white reactionary racism and Islamophobia. But he’d get booed for it, and conservatives would blame his eventual electoral defeat on his purported milquetoast centrism. Just seven years later, the product of right-wing media, Trumpism, reigns. Unlike McCain, Trump not only permits, but actively affirms, radical voices, tacitly when not explicitly. Why would he not, if Fox News is a forum for millions to celebrate fantasies of insurrectionary violence and state suppression of Muslims? It doesn’t pay to be the adult in the room.



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“People are armed to the hilt”: Inside the paranoid right-wing reality—where terrorists are literall (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2015 OP
The US Military has more fire power. We have had more deaths from terrorists Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #1
Which is a good reason? TeddyR Dec 2015 #2
If you are talking about deaths from gun violence, yes the numbers are higher Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #3
Making someone "experience terror" doesn't make one a terrorist. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #4
By using violence as a means of achieving a goal is a terrorist. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #7
Well, since we'll never remotely agree on that point, I'll just drop it and wish you well! Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #8
K&R Photographer Dec 2015 #5
It's really come to this C_U_L8R Dec 2015 #6

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. The US Military has more fire power. We have had more deaths from terrorists
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:54 PM
Dec 2015

Who are home grown and bred than from Muslims. This is another good reason to get high capacity rapid fire weapons out of production.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
2. Which is a good reason?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:00 PM
Dec 2015

The US military having more firepower or homegrown terrorists killing more people? Regarding the latter, I think your numbers are way, way off if you start counting from 9/11/2001.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. If you are talking about deaths from gun violence, yes the numbers are higher
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:05 PM
Dec 2015

Than lost their lives on 9/11. I stated there are more deaths than from gun violence which the person dying experienced terror at the time of their death than died from the terrorist attacks on 9/11. We are better than the gun violence allowed to happen day after day.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
4. Making someone "experience terror" doesn't make one a terrorist.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:10 PM
Dec 2015

Political motivation, people...sheesh.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. By using violence as a means of achieving a goal is a terrorist.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:34 PM
Dec 2015

If a mass shooter shoots several one it is achieving a goal. Domestic violence is an act of terror. Yes a person committing acts of violence is acting as a terrorists.

C_U_L8R

(45,026 posts)
6. It's really come to this
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:50 PM
Dec 2015

I have to admit that I've often thought of getting a gun to protect my family from Republicans. Yes. from Republicans. I take them at their word when they take to the airwaves to threaten us for our beliefs and values.

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