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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:20 AM Dec 2015

I stand with my Muslim brothers and sisters and so should you.

I stand with the refugees fleeing the horrors in Syria. And I would do so even if my country didn't bear a large measure of responsibility for those ongoing horrors.

I know that most people simply want to live their lives and have no intention of harming others.

In the face of the hate and intolerance being fomented by Trump and others of his ilk, there is a decent human response. And it's not ignoring terrorism to stand against intolerance and bullying to do so.

I stand with those being marginalized and demonized. I stand with my Muslim American bothers and sisters.



Severed pig’s head thrown at Philadelphia mosque doorS
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/08/severed-pigs-head-thrown-at-philadelphia-mosque-door/

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I stand with my Muslim brothers and sisters and so should you. (Original Post) cali Dec 2015 OP
K&R.... daleanime Dec 2015 #1
Thank you very much Doubledee Dec 2015 #2
As do I. We did not as a nation smear Christians when Dylan Roof slaughtered people in their church peacebird Dec 2015 #3
Some people did. Not all, but some. NYCButterfinger Dec 2015 #4
I hope the US does a better job standing with them than it did with all the rest of us subjected Bluenorthwest Dec 2015 #5
Well said, cali. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #6
absolutely! marmar Dec 2015 #7
Big K&R.... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #8
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #9
I, too, stand with them. I wish though, Ineeda Dec 2015 #10
Is Ellen Burstyn muslim? Wow, I had no idea. closeupready Dec 2015 #22
"I stand with my Muslim brothers and sisters and so should you." BlueJazz Dec 2015 #11
As do I. Rebkeh Dec 2015 #12
That is a vital truth. Thanks for adding it. cali Dec 2015 #17
k&r LeftishBrit Dec 2015 #13
Likewise dpatbrown Dec 2015 #14
Yes ma'am sarge43 Dec 2015 #15
K & R Tom_Foolery Dec 2015 #16
If we don't say this, then we're no better than those silent Germans mainer Dec 2015 #18
I have no Muslim brothers and sisters. Half-Century Man Dec 2015 #19
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2015 #20
Thank you. I do remember that case. cali Dec 2015 #24
Thank you, Cali. closeupready Dec 2015 #21
I do. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #23

Doubledee

(137 posts)
2. Thank you very much
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:25 AM
Dec 2015

I believe in my fellow Americans, and I believe that all this hatred, bigotry and ,frankly, stupidity ,while used as a tool to keep us from thinking instead of reacting in knee jerk fashion, stems from a small and vocal minority made to look large by a media obsessed more with selling papers and ads than in truly reporting fairly or accurately.

I refuse to believe that your enlightened and passionate plea for sanity is not the common position of the great majority of us.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
3. As do I. We did not as a nation smear Christians when Dylan Roof slaughtered people in their church
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:26 AM
Dec 2015

We did not smear all Christians when some nutjob slaughtered an abortion doctor in the name of their god.

We should not blame all Muslims for the actions of their religions extremists either.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
5. I hope the US does a better job standing with them than it did with all the rest of us subjected
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:54 AM
Dec 2015

nonstop hate and denigration. This is the country that let Westboro attack hundreds of minority funerals with virtually no push back from outside the community being attacked. I'd hate to see that happen to others.
This is the country that treated LGBT differently in immigration, in taxation, that permits discrimination against us in housing and employment and does so proudly.

I think all the years of allowing all that hate was a mistake. That bigotry, not really a sacrament. That invective, not really all that safe and sound. All that prejudice, actually toxic.



beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
6. Well said, cali.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:00 AM
Dec 2015

When my mother immigrated here she faced intolerance and xenophobia but that was nothing compared to how Muslims and refugees are being treated.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
8. Big K&R....
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:10 AM
Dec 2015

I'm tired of the Xenophobia in this country, primarily led by people who think this nation was founded in one religion, TOTALLY forgetting the meaning of religious freedom.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
10. I, too, stand with them. I wish though,
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:39 AM
Dec 2015

that some 'celebrity' Muslims would put a more public face to their American-ness: Dave Chapelle, Mike Tyson, Jermaine and Janet Jackson, Shaquille, Kareem, Ice Cube, Snoop Dog, Asif Mandvi, Dr. Oz, Amal Clooney, Ellen Burstyn for heaven's sake, and many, many more. Where are they? Are they afraid of a Dixie Chick-style retribution?

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
11. "I stand with my Muslim brothers and sisters and so should you."
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:44 AM
Dec 2015

I'm proud to stand with them also.

As others have posted, people who are intolerant come in all flavors.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
12. As do I.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:50 AM
Dec 2015

Also, they are the victims of Muslim extremism more often than anyone else, by a huge margin. The anti-Islam sentiments are not just inhumane, they are illogical.

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
14. Likewise
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 11:08 AM
Dec 2015

My heart goes out to the Muslim Americans. It's a travesty what's happening, and shameful.

mainer

(12,033 posts)
18. If we don't say this, then we're no better than those silent Germans
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 11:17 AM
Dec 2015

who said nothing when their neighbors were rounded up in the 1930s.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
19. I have no Muslim brothers and sisters.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 11:25 AM
Dec 2015

I do have brothers and sisters who happen to be Muslim.

We are family first, how each of us says good morning to G*d is secondary at best.

H2O Man

(73,637 posts)
20. Recommended.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 11:55 AM
Dec 2015

Thank you for this, Cali. It is important.I think there are a number of ways that we can accomplish this, from the simple, every-day individual interactions, to a more socio-political level.

Where I live, there has been a significant increase in the Islamic population. You may recall a few years back, when the Town Supervisor of Sidney, NY, attempted to force a tiny Sufi settlement to destroy their perfectly legal cemetery. Those events provided me with the opportunity to travel to my old home town, and become acquainted with the Sufi people. I would also become, for lack of better word, a "leader" in the grass roots effort to protect the cemetery. This included the chance to engage in some valuable "public education."

While I am friends with individuals from a few of the Islamic groups in the region I live in, I obviously do not know every one of them. Yesterday, at the grocery store, I saw a young man who I am not familiar with. I made a point of greeting him, and engaging in a brief, casual conversation about the weather. I do not have the ability to communicate with words the beauty of this young man's smile; I know that he enjoyed having a complete stranger recognizing him as a fellow human being ....for even small-town America can be very hostile to "others" -- especially Muslims in America in 2015.

It is very important that, at this time when shitheads like Donald Trump give voice to the hatreds, fears, and anxieties of the ignorant, that people of good will engage in a campaign of public education. I am interested in what steps that you and others here suggest might be effective today.

Again, thank you. You are truly beautiful!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. Thank you. I do remember that case.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:07 PM
Dec 2015

It is so painful watching this tide of hate and intolerance rise. And frustrating and infuriating. Bigotry under the name of not being politically correct is nothing but bigotry.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
23. I do.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:07 PM
Dec 2015

There's a modest Muslim community here in Portland, and I've never had anything but good experiences interacting with them. Good people, good neighbors...most strike me as no different from any other Portlander (save for our tendency to go a bit overboard with beer on occasion). Many are proud American citizens.

So far as I know, there's been all of one bad apple (in terms of terrorism): that dumbass kid who was planning on setting off a bomb at an event in downtown Portland, but got caught before he could execute his plan.

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