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Those struggling to make ends meet in Finland could soon get some extra cash, courtesy of the government. The Nordic nation is considering plans to hand over 800 tax-free euros to citizens every month. And its not just for citizens who are strapped for cashevery resident would receive a monthly payment equivalent to about $870.
The monthly 800 payment would replace all other welfare, social security programs, unemployment payments, The Independent reports. The Finnish government plans to begin testing the program in 2017.
Finlands unemployment rate is at a 10-year high of more than 9 percent (the United States rate is 5.4 percent). Some fear that the basic income would be unfair, with the wealthy receiving the same amount as the poor. Others worry it might make people less eager to find work, but the monthly check is actually designed to get people back into the workforce. For many Finnish citizens, getting a part-time or low-paying job could impact their welfare benefits; leaving them worse off than if they did not work at all.
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For me, a basic income means simplifying the social security system, said Prime Minister Juha Sipila, who supports the idea, according to The Telegraph. A survey by the Finnish Social Insurance Institution found that 69 percent of citizens would prefer basic income to other benefits.
http://news.yahoo.com/finland-plans-every-citizen-rich-poor-870-month-002158545.html
Warpy
(111,389 posts)from people who are unemployed or disabled. No more jumping through hoops to get that inadequate dole check, it's automatic and everybody gets one.
As for encouraging the lazy, it's not high enough for that. You have to be a one percenter be truly lazy. And they are.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)the Goldwater campaign (Milton Freidman specifically ) as a negative income tax. Of course one of the problems is that it becomes a vehicle to first eliminate all social services and then to deflate the value of the base income. Right wingers love to do a bait and switch.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_income_tax
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Will this decrease what the elderly are getting? They will be least able to supplement their income.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I would hope that doesn't replace their SS -- it doesn't seem like enough to pay housing plus food. The elderly would end up forced to be Walmart greeters until they die in harness...not a happy future to look forward too!
erpowers
(9,350 posts)The article stated that the payment were meant to replace all other social programs.
"The monthly 800 payment would replace all other welfare, social security programs,
unemployment payments, The Independent reports. The Finnish government plans to
begin testing the program in 2017."
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)iow, are they getting a "pay cut" or are they staying more or less the same?
It depends on the cost of living in Finland, but that doesn't seem like enough to pay rent and food. But it's hard to believe they'd be throwing the elderly out in the street.
There's just not enough detail in the article to make a reasonable comparison. $870 may go much further in Finland than it does here. That amount would barely pay rent for a room in most of the US.
Then article did not mention what the elderly are getting now, but it did state that the plan was to eliminate all other social program including Social Security.
Photographer
(1,142 posts)The country where I'd like to be...
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