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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumswhy Social Security is such a good thing
and private retirement isn't so...
"Fees skim big bucks from 401(k)s... A household of two median-income earners will pay about $155,000 over 40 years"
http://www.consumerreports.org/content/cro/en/consumer-reports-magazine/z2012/July/mutual-fund-fees-401k-plan.html
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http://www.demos.org/data-bytes/5979
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why Social Security is such a good thing (Original Post)
handmade34
May 2012
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sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)1. It's those fees that caused the drive away from defined pensions to
401Ks. Those poor old Wall Streeters needed a new source of revenue and more 'investors'.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)2. With the help of a government that re-structured taxes to help them with their theft.
401(k) plans were a way to give rich people, who were already going to invest that money anyway, a tax break for doing so. This was a common theme of the Carter/Reagan* era for you younguns. They were also a way for employers to avoid having to support fixed benefit pensions and thereby reduce compensation (i.e., retirement benefits) to employees (cutting back on retirement benefits was another theme of the late 70s and 80s). The advocates of these plans never even thought about middle class workers. Theyyoudidnt enter into the calculations at all.
And now we have an entire generation of citizen investors who have been played for suckers:
here.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)3. interesting link
lots to chew on
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)4. Part of the push was the failure of a few pensions, but the solution we got was like being thrown
a life preserver made of lead.