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SHRED

(28,136 posts) Wed Dec 9, 2015, 12:58 PM Dec 2015

Gerrymandering

Is there any hope of reform?
Repukes have been masters at circumventing democracy with it.
What's the latest?

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Gerrymandering (Original Post) SHRED Dec 2015 OP

Well we need to win elections yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #1

The dems doomed themselves edhopper Dec 2015 #2

well tom delay showed us redistricting can be done at any time - you just have to have a willing saturnsring Dec 2015 #3

The 50 state strategy that depended on "DINOs" DU wants to purge? whatthehey Dec 2015 #10

Probably not. Since I lost the right to a full vote in 2010, there is no chance I will fly mmonk Dec 2015 #4

And that's plain and simple what's going to hamstring America for decades. HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #5

the left needs to vote for the left - EVEN IF YOU CANDIDATE DIDNT WIN THE PRIMARY and saturnsring Dec 2015 #6

There really isn't a remedy if your vote equals 1/3rd of a Republican vote. mmonk Dec 2015 #9

Not likely to happen any time soon. WillowTree Dec 2015 #7

Gerrymandering is only part of the issue davidn3600 Dec 2015 #8

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)

1. Well we need to win elections

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:13 PM

Dec 2015

The states decide districting. We hardly have any state majorities left. That has to change by 2020 or it will be worse in the house. Losing 900 seats since 2098 is not good. That is in the state houses.

edhopper

(33,612 posts)

2. The dems doomed themselves

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:15 PM

Dec 2015

by not fighting in 2010.
Perhaps they can turn it around in 2020.
But not with DWS in charge.
Bring back Dean and the 50 State strategy.

saturnsring

(1,832 posts)

3. well tom delay showed us redistricting can be done at any time - you just have to have a willing

Reply to edhopper (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:17 PM

Dec 2015

government

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)

10. The 50 state strategy that depended on "DINOs" DU wants to purge?

Reply to edhopper (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:35 PM

Dec 2015

That 50 state strategy? The one that stressed winning over ideological purity? Or do people really think Kucinich could win a TN Senate race?

mmonk

(52,589 posts)

4. Probably not. Since I lost the right to a full vote in 2010, there is no chance I will fly

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:18 PM

Dec 2015

an American flag because it does not represent a government of and by the people and is a straight up lie and deeply immoral. I have the knowledge that this country is not a free country nor any sort of representative of the concept. All it takes to realize the truth is to have your full vote reduced to a third. But alas, I and my family have been damned to live here. Any questions?

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)

5. And that's plain and simple what's going to hamstring America for decades.

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:19 PM

Dec 2015

That's why it's incredibly important to keep at least the Senate and the Presidency under Democratic control. "All three branches" is going to unleash a hell not seen since Bewsh the Dumber.

Ohio's state legislature has been 95% under Republican control for 20 years.

saturnsring

(1,832 posts)

6. the left needs to vote for the left - EVEN IF YOU CANDIDATE DIDNT WIN THE PRIMARY and

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:20 PM

Dec 2015

not throw it away on a green or any other party - however, ohio just enacted a law to help redistricting,other states can follow suit if their state's constitution allows it

mmonk

(52,589 posts)

9. There really isn't a remedy if your vote equals 1/3rd of a Republican vote.

Reply to saturnsring (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:29 PM

Dec 2015

They will control your legislature and the House of Representatives no matter what you do until those with a full vote abandon them. Hard cold fact and truth.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)

7. Not likely to happen any time soon.

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:27 PM

Dec 2015

Each state determines how its congressional districts are drawn. In order to change those rules in any state, legislation would have to come out of that state's legislature. Face it, they're all politicians. They're never going to pass laws that tie their own hands and, though this will likely be an unpopular statement on DU, both parties do it in the states where they hold majorities. It's all part of the game.

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)

8. Gerrymandering is only part of the issue

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Dec 9, 2015, 01:29 PM

Dec 2015

We have a urban-rural divide in this country. The politics between the big cities and the folks out in the country and suburbs don't match on many different issues.

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