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fencesitter

(1,106 posts)
Wed May 30, 2012, 01:14 PM May 2012

Birthers and citizenship

I'm sure this has been answered a thousand times, but I myself have never heard the answer...If Barack Obama's mother is an American citizen, it doesn't matter where he was born, he's a U.S. citizen, right? What's the problem?

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Birthers and citizenship (Original Post) fencesitter May 2012 OP
The problem is the ignorance of those who think it's an issue. Arkansas Granny May 2012 #1
He wouldn't have been treestar May 2012 #2
thanks for that... fencesitter May 2012 #5
One would think, though some deny that a child born to two Americans are citizens if born out of US hlthe2b May 2012 #3
The issue is about being a "natural born" citizen ...... oldhippie May 2012 #4
The problem is a nontroversy ginned up out of nothing gratuitous May 2012 #6

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. He wouldn't have been
Wed May 30, 2012, 01:22 PM
May 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law

See the "Birth Abroad to one citizen parent" there.

Ann would not have been living in the US for five years after turning 14.

Not every American citizen can pass their citizenship on to their offspring born in another country. As that link shows, the rules on it changed several times.

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
3. One would think, though some deny that a child born to two Americans are citizens if born out of US
Wed May 30, 2012, 01:23 PM
May 2012

Not just the incredibly ignorant---some of their Federalist society (probably Liberty University graduate) legal beagles will make that claim too.

I recall some on the RW, who hated McCain, tried to imply his having been born on a military base in Panama to two American parents would likewise not qualify as "natural born"...

They have a penchance for ignoring facts or shaping their interpretation however they wish.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
4. The issue is about being a "natural born" citizen ......
Wed May 30, 2012, 01:23 PM
May 2012

..... where the definitions of "natural born" are all over the map. It's not really defined anywhere authoritative to most folks.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. The problem is a nontroversy ginned up out of nothing
Wed May 30, 2012, 01:47 PM
May 2012

But that's the stock in trade of certain operators in our political system. They get paid rather well for it, so it's no surprise that they constantly harp on such things. The baffling thing is that the popular media continue to pay attention to the street-corner rantings and red-crayon scribblings of the demented minds that come up with this nonsense.

Of course, since Mr. Obama was born in Hawai'i in 1961, there is no problem at all for people in their right minds.

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