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Matariki

(18,775 posts)
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:12 AM Dec 2015

Dear non-Muslim allies, here's how you can help

http://rabble.ca/news/2015/12/dear-non-muslim-allies-heres-how-you-can-help

I am writing to you because it has gotten just that bad. I have found myself telling too many people about the advice given to me years ago by the late composer Herbert Brun, a German Jew who fled Germany at the age of 15: "be sure that your passport is in order."

It's not enough to laugh at Donald Trump anymore. The rhetoric about Muslims has gotten so nasty, and is everywhere, on every channel, every newsfeed. It is clearly fuelling daily events of targeted violence, vandalism, vigilante harassment, discrimination.

I want you to know that it has gotten bad enough that my family and I talk about what to keep on hand if we need to leave quickly, and where we should go, maybe if the election goes the wrong way, or if folks get stirred up enough to be dangerous before the election. When things seem less scary, we talk about a five or a 10-year plan to go somewhere where cops don't carry guns and hate speech isn't allowed on network television.

And if you don't already know this about me, I want you to know that I was born in this country. I have lived my whole life in this country. I have spent my entire adult life working to help the poor, the disabled and the dispossessed access the legal system in this country. And I want you to know that I am devoutly and proudly Muslim.

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Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
10. Wow I don't have to guess why you can say that so proud
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:34 AM
Dec 2015

This OP is not from a coward and German born Jews who left were not cowards

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
13. I won't let them turn this country into the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century!
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 09:37 AM
Dec 2015

I will campaign for the opposition. If the likes of Trump get into power I will take up arms and fight for the return of sanity to this country. Too many of my ancestors fought for this country's freedoms for me to leave. As a 63 year old woman with a messed up body I don't have that much to lose so fighting for the sake of others would be worth it.

As an example I have an ancestor who at the age of 83 heard that the British were coming to take over his village. He picked up his gun and went to hide in the woods so he could ambush them. When he heard marching coming in his direction he jumped out to confront the approaching troops. It turned out to be the village militia returning from their battles but the old man was recognized for his courage and willingness to fight.

I cannot blame the people who are the target of these bigots for making plans for their safety and the safety of their families. It's only prudent. But not all who will be targeted by these fascists will be able to leave the country - the same as not all could leave New Orleans - and I would be proud to help them fight for their right to live without fear.

Docreed2003

(16,878 posts)
2. Always know that you have allies...
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:34 AM
Dec 2015

There are those of us from every and from no faith background who stand in solidarity with you. This is a country based on egalitarianism, and those who stand against that are fighting against the very fabric of what this country was founded on. This country may have woefully failed to stand up for those ideals at various times, but there are still those amongst the rabble who believe in the founders pledge of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". As-salamu alaykum, my friend...and I say friend not knowing you but seeing your heart and connecting as a fellow human, I pray that all of us can find peace...

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
14. It really is extremely sad that people are experiencing this sort of thing
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:22 PM
Dec 2015

There were a couple women interviewed on NPR yesterday talking about the same thing - aggressive behavior toward them and getting screamed at because they were wearing hijab.

It's so very obviously being fueled by the likes of Donald Trump, giving permission to racist troglodytes. We need to take that permission back.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
4. You don't have to be "pro-" any religion to recognize persecution for what it is.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:27 AM
Dec 2015

My concern for American Muslims has nothing to with Islam itself, but simply the fact that they're human beings.

denvine

(802 posts)
5. Thanks for the advise!
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:48 AM
Dec 2015

It literally makes me sick to my stomach. I will use your advise because honestly I don't know how else to fight this craziness. You are more American than a majority of so-called Americans. I too think about moving at times because of what I see happening in our country. I just returned from a seven week trip abroad with trying not to keep up with the news, for a break. I am pretty disgusted with what I see since my return. You have my sympathies and support.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
7. After 9-11, someone tried to set a mosque on fire in Seattle. After that--
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:50 AM
Dec 2015
http://www.seattletimes.com/pacific-nw-magazine/seattle-embraces-idriss-mosque-in-post-9-11-healing/

The next day, bouquets began appearing on the mosque steps. Over the next few weeks, hundreds of cards and letters poured in — some handmade and ornate, some on crumbled scraps; some in the trembling cursive of the very old, some in the blocky scrawl of the young. Well-wishers left candles and food and donations. They held hands and sang, “Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me.”

And they stayed. For two months, an army of volunteers — Christians, Jews, atheists, it didn’t matter — stood guard round-the-clock. Tents were set up; shifts were scheduled. They came up with a name: Watchful Eyes. Hundreds gave their precious time to strangers from a culture they did not know.

It will not happen again, they vowed — not here.

Ten years ago, the world changed forever in four fiery explosions. In our little corner of the country, life changed, too. Fuel that didn’t ignite, a gun that didn’t harm. And hundreds of individual gestures of welcome. Small things. Real impact.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
8. My husband and I were
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:37 AM
Dec 2015

Some of those volunteers! It seems like a long time ago. Near the end of those few months, we were invited to come inside to celebrate the end of Ramadan.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
15. +1
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:27 PM
Dec 2015

Love you mrs_p!

I should have liked to have been out there with you. Heard about it after the fact. But I remember that happening and was very encouraged by it.

LuvNewcastle

(16,858 posts)
9. I have to believe in my heart of hearts that
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:07 AM
Dec 2015

most Americans know it is wrong to persecute people, whether it's over religion, sexual orientation, race, national origin, or any other characteristic. We are supposed to treat people equally as Americans. We were supposed to be a model of what this world could be. All cultures were supposed to be able to come here and be themselves, and yet be part of a greater society that respects all of humanity in its variety. I think we can be that country, but we have lessons to learn and souls to search. I hope you and your family stick around, if for nothing else but to educate the rest of us.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. But the reality is that many minority groups face regular hate crimes and harassment always have.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:57 AM
Dec 2015

Thousands of such crimes a year, over 3,000 motivated by racial bias and more than 60% of those are toward African Americans. Over 1500 a year motivated by bigotry toward the victim's sexual identity, average year sees about 1200 bias crimes motivated by bigotry against the victims religion, 60% of those crimes are against Jews. This year there will be another spike in anti Muslim crimes, but thus far those very terrible crimes have yet to meet those other groups in numbers.
What this means is that Americans usually fully ignore hate crimes against minority groups. These are beatings, murders, rapes, arson, kidnappings you name it. It happens all the bloody time.

Here is an OP from yesterday about a gay man beaten and hospitalized. How many responses? Zero, the typical number of responses to stories of anti gay hate crimes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1044878

This is how I grew up, this is the country Americans have always nurtured and said they wanted. Westboro, that went on for years, Americans really said nothing about it. DU itself abjectly adores the Pope, who spews denigrating invective about us in our own Congress while DU cheers for him. 'They are a threat, disordered, the Father of Lies leads them' and DU cheers. Always has.

DU and the Democratic Party endorsed hate preachers who called gay people vampires, child killers, pedophiles, all of that for Obama's primary push, then for his Inauguration it was more of the same. What was done about that? It was celebrated.

So while is it sweet that DU affects to care about Muslims, DU should really oppose all hate crime against all people in principle and this is far from the case.

LuvNewcastle

(16,858 posts)
12. You're right.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 09:33 AM
Dec 2015

And this country is ready to explode. We've gone for so long worrying about other countries and their problems and we've let our own problems fester. There are people in charge who don't have the courage or inclination to address our own problems, though. They would rather focus on others and their shortcomings. It's more profitable to throw money at fighting other countries than to deal with our own issues.

Domestic spending costs money with no return for the warmongers. It's my philosophy that a country's duty is to its own citizens first. That means providing education and opportunity for as many as possible. Progress, to me, is not a pipe dream. When humans have the will to change things, there can be amazing results.

Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #12)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. Makes me ill the way the right wingers
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:28 PM
Dec 2015

use terrorism as an excuse for a new bigotry they think they can get away with.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
19. In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 02:37 PM
Dec 2015

“In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart. I simply can’t build up my hopes on a foundation consisting of confusion, misery, and death. I see the world gradually being turned into a wilderness, I hear the ever approaching thunder, which will destroy us too, I can feel the sufferings of millions and yet, if I look up into the heavens, I think that it will all come right, that this cruelty too will end, and that peace and tranquility will return again.”

― Anne Frank, The Diary of a Young Girl

I believe that too. Most people really are good at heart. The vast majority don't kill, torture, rape, or damage other people.

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