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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,627 posts) Sat Dec 12, 2015, 03:24 PM Dec 2015

December 12, 2000, a date that will live in infamy.

I did this in 2012 and 2013. Somehow, I missed last year.

The disaster was just beginning.

I know; Roosevelt said "which," not "that."

The Supreme Court delivered its decision in Bush v. Gore on this day in 2000, declaring that Bush would occupy the White House for the next eight years.

Also, if you own an Oldsmobile, you know that it was on the same day that General Motors announced that it would be stopping production of Oldsmobiles.

Dead at 106: Oldsmobile

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December 12, 2000, a date that will live in infamy. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2015 OP

As Oldsmobile goes... world wide wally Dec 2015 #1

The Supreme Court is the lord of the land AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #2

Justice John Paul Steven's scathing dissent on Bush v Gore: bvar22 Dec 2015 #3

FWIW, FDR made the wrong word choice. Yours is correct. merrily Dec 2015 #4

Odd, isn't it? mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2015 #5

I would not have posted if I had seen an error. Posting to confirm you are correct is different. merrily Dec 2015 #6

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)

1. As Oldsmobile goes...

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:03 PM

Dec 2015

So goes the country.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)

2. The Supreme Court is the lord of the land

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:06 PM

Dec 2015

By virtual decree they were able to install Bush as president, starting the nightmare that continues to this day.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)

3. Justice John Paul Steven's scathing dissent on Bush v Gore:

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:22 PM

Dec 2015

"In Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000), Stevens wrote a scathing dissent on the Court's ruling to stay the recount of votes in Florida during the 2000 presidential election. He believed that the holding displayed "an unstated lack of confidence in the impartiality and capacity of the state judges who would make the critical decisions if the vote count were to proceed".

He continued, "The endorsement of that position by the majority of this Court can only lend credence to the most cynical appraisal of the work of judges throughout the land. It is confidence in the men and women who administer the judicial system that is the true backbone of the rule of law. Time will one day heal the wound to that confidence that will be inflicted by today's decision. One thing, however, is certain. Although we may never know with complete certainty the identity of the winner of this year's Presidential election, the identity of the loser is perfectly clear. It is the Nation's confidence in the judge as an impartial guardian of the rule of law."

Justice John Paul Stevens.

Unfortunately, this unashamed and unapologetic Liberal and champion of the People over Corporations
was replaced with a more Business Friendly "Moderate" by the Obama Administration,
swinging the Court even further to the Conservative, Corporate Friendly Right.

merrily

(45,251 posts)

4. FWIW, FDR made the wrong word choice. Yours is correct.

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:26 PM

Dec 2015

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,627 posts)

5. Odd, isn't it?

Reply to merrily (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:43 PM

Dec 2015

FDR was pretty well educated. He must have known which word was right. Maybe a speechwriter persuaded him to say "which" for emphasis.

My FWIW is that I used to snap up grammar handbooks when I would see them at library book sales and yard sales. Unfortunately, you probably would not be surprised to hear the mistakes made by highly paid people at work or in the media. "Send an email to he and I," that sort of thing. Also, people can't seem to get "whoever" and "whomever" figured out. It's not that hard.

Well, I'll go yell at the kids to get off my yard now.

Thank you for writing.

merrily

(45,251 posts)

6. I would not have posted if I had seen an error. Posting to confirm you are correct is different.

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 12, 2015, 04:51 PM

Dec 2015

An error sometimes does burn something into the brain better. Someone once told me, "Don't take it personal." And I never forgot what she said. I might have forgotten, if she had said "peronally."

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