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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor my 20,000 post: "But mom, why do they have to come HERE?"
Without giving away my exact age, I was a young child in the mid-70's when the U.S. accepted desperate refugees from Vietnam. Although the only television news outlets at that time were primarily the three networks, there was a lot of coverage of it and I watched some of it with my mom. The world outside of my own bubble of home, school and family was just starting to penetrate my consciousness, although my awareness that such a world existed wasn't quite growing fast enough for my parents.
While watching the coverage, and not really fully understanding it, I asked my mother "But why do they have to come HERE? Why do WE have to take them?" While mom was understandably upset at my complete lack of awareness and understanding, she also recognized that I was quite young and didn't really understand the situation or the import of what I was asking. She patiently explained that "we have more, so much more" and that these people not only had nothing at all and nowhere to go, and that they were suffering terribly and in danger in their native land, but that we, as a nation, had helped to create the very conditions under which they were suffering and that caused the necessity of their leaving. She recognized that she needed to put it into terms that my young mind would grasp, so she asked me to imagine that I and my parents had everything taken from us, had no home, no possessions, had to scramble for food and water and other basics every day and didn't know if we'd even eat from day to day, had to watch friends and family being taken away or die, and had to worry every second about being persecuted or killed. I wouldn't even have my "Ginny" doll, a doll I'd received for Christmas a couple years before and that I'd named and had to have EVERYWHERE I went, even school.
While I still didn't fully "get it" right then, it slowly began to seep into my consciousness as I became more aware that there was, indeed, a world outside of my little bubble of existence and that many others suffered in that world, that part of growing up and maturing was realizing that selfishness and insularity were not humane and were not good for either the individual or the society as a whole. This didn't mean that we shouldn't take care of ourselves and our families, by no means. It was not an "either-or" situation. Years later, when I looked back on that incident, I shook my head at my childish ignorance and selfishness. The only good thing about it was that I was a child and really didn't know any better, and that my mother rightfully used it as a teachable moment, a moment that helped galvanize my social consciousness and truly began my awareness of life outside my own bubble of work, school and family.
When I look back on that incident, I also remember how I felt when I first was hearing about the Vietnam refugees being taken in by our government. It was a kind of "us vs. them" feeling. THEY were coming to "take away" things from US. At that age, like many children, I saw things in that "us and them", "black and white", "mine and someone taking mine" way. I also began to realize that some people never get out of that kind of mindset, where they zealously protect what is "theirs" because someone else, someone different, coming along means that "theirs" will be taken away. This is why, as a nation built on immigration and refugees, we've always had a dichotomous attitude regarding both, as even a cursory glance at our history will show. This is the kind of attitude we need to educate against, and do it by touching emotions and making it real personally, as my mother did with me.
When I was older and studying our refusal to accept most Jewish refugees just prior to and during WWII, and what then subsequently happened to them (among them Anne Frank, whose family had applied for asylum here), as well as the very negative attitude the majority of Americans had against such refugees, I remembered my own childish attitude in that regard. And my knowledge of the social sciences told me just how unfortunately common and hard-wired a lot of such attitudes are with many humans and human societies. We are by no means at all alone in that sentiment. But we, as a nation, have often been able to overcome at least some of it and accept and protect more refugees and immigrants than many other nations, with the current exception of modern Europe.
One thing a knowledge of history gives is a sense of longer-term perspective. When people say that "we've never had this much hate and bigotry in our nation", while I can understand why it may seem like that is true, I know from my deep knowledge of our own history that that is not the case at all. There have ALWAYS been such people and sentiments in this country, indeed, there have been even worse instances of religious and cultural bigotry and legal actions against such groups. The very existence of the 19th-century Know Nothing party was to pass and enact laws against Catholics and to legally persecute them. That is just one of many examples. It just seems like it's unprecedented because the internet and instant mass communications makes such attitudes and incidents far more known than they otherwise would have been.
One reason the party ultimately failed, even though they did manage to cause much damage against Catholics, is because enough people began standing up against them publicly in every way they could. And that is what we must do know, with all of the hatred, bigotry and discrimination coursing through the nation, infecting even seemingly intelligent, rational people. Standing up publicly, firmly and consistently against it, even when it may very well be costly or dangerous to do so, is the only thing that will do it.
TexasTowelie
(112,453 posts)and for writing such a poignant post. We know what you were doing during the down time.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Iggo
(47,571 posts)Me occasionally included. I was an idiot teenager at the time.
TygrBright
(20,771 posts)My stepfather put down his fork, made sure he was looking at him, and said, "Because it's our responsibility to clean up the messes we make, and fix anything we damage, whether it's the lawnmower (cuz had tried to take it apart and put it back together again and guess what...) or someone else's home. And when we can't fix it, we make it right the best we can."
An old-fashioned kinda guy, my stepfather.
reminiscently,
Bright
liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)to impress on me. I may have been too young to fully comprehend just what she meant, but certainly not too young to have that seed planted. I'm glad your stepfather recognized that!
stage left
(2,966 posts)That needs lots of readers. Thanks so much for writing it and sharing it.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Great post!
Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)I believe that we are approximately the same age, because I too was asking why "they" had to come over here. My dad, who is the wisest man I've ever known even without a HS diploma explained that, "Son, we are America, the best country there is. They have nothing. We have everything. We can share." And so we have. I have become very good friends with some Vietnamese people and we have had a heckuva time together.
liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)"we have so much more and we shouldn't just keep it for ourselves all the time." I really believe that some people never grow out of that childish us-and-them way of thinking, and they are, unfortunately, the loudest right now. I hope there are enough parents like ours to counteract that.
NNadir
(33,561 posts)A. Lincoln, Letter to Joshua Speed, August 24, 1855
It sounds like you had a very beautiful mother who raised a beautiful daughter.
Thank you.
liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)really speaks to the true nature of the Know Nothings. Frankly, it's one of the most apt names for a political party in our history, though they certainly didn't intend it to be.
Yes, my mother is a wonderful, beautiful person; I've spent my life trying to be more like her and live up to her example. We've both tried to impart these lessons to my son; he's an adult now and I think we've mostly succeeded, fortunately.
NNadir
(33,561 posts)Your mother should be very proud of what she sent into the future.
As for the Know-nothings, they were very much like the Trump wing of the modern day Republican party.
Actually the Republican Party - which was generally the "liberal" party of its day, but obviously not in all things - numbered prominent "know nothings" among its founders.
Nathaniel Banks, although an abolitionist, was a prominent member, and Governor of Massachusetts, where there were many Irish immigrants, the Catholic Irish being regarded much as Islamic people are today. Lincoln, who needed political generals during the Civil War, appointed Banks as a General, where he was generally incompetent, as were many, but not all, political generals.
The United States was, at that time, generally a racist horror story, and remained so for more than century later, with the only great leader pushing back against it being the oft maligned but vastly underrated President Ulysses S. Grant.
I have often thought that Grant's bad reputation as President, which was undeserved, was connected to his failure to endorse racism and genocide. Increasingly many modern scholars are coming to recognize that fact.
It seems that modern reactionary Republicans are trying to go back to the 1850's in many ways.
malaise
(269,186 posts)Rec
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)The Vietnamese did not have a sacred book telling them to convert the world to vietnameseness.
Nor did they strongly believe in gender inequality or that being gay is a crime.
I know these are issues that needed solving with Christians too, but it took decades and conflict.
Why fast forward a repetition of the very same conflicts in the West?
liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)are what is wrong. These current refugees are fleeing the same persecution and terrorism, and many of them are children. They have also lost everything, some of them their entire families, and their country is being destroyed, along with everything they know. Not all of them are Muslims and, of those that are, not all of them believe with the same broad brush you've painted them with. Children and teens are drowning and dying, millions are suffering and it IS, indeed, the same thing. That you would consign millions of people to incalculable suffering, persecution and death because of your own biases and prejudices says a lot more about you than it does them.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)I love it when someone accuses me of "inaccurate generalizations" based on a stew of words with zero figures. Poetry is very moving, but it's not a sound basis for policy.
To debunk your broad assertions, here are some facts form a site aptly named
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/
You claim not all refugees in the US are Muslim. 93% are.
You claim many refugees are women and children. That is true in the UNHCR camps around Syria. The million or so refugees which actually entered Europe is 63% male. As for the US, the current refugee intake is very low as of now, so not predictive of what would happen if the gates were wide open.
Lastly you wrote that "not all of them believe with the same broad brush you've painted them with.". That's cute from someone who came with no brush. All I can repeat is that people in the Middle East region around Syria fall roughly within th efollowing gages:
- about 10% support ISIS (13% among Syrian refugees)
- more than 50% support Sharia (Iraq 91%, Jordan 71%, Syria not polled)
Let me know if you need more numbers and/or sources.