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(56,582 posts) Mon Dec 14, 2015, 09:42 PM Dec 2015

Juvenile convicted in 2012 Delhi rape to be released soon

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Nirbhaya-juvenile-to-walk-free-on-Dec-20-Centre-opposes-move/articleshow/50179656.cms

New Delhi: The juvenile convict in the Nirbhaya rape and murder case may walk free on December 20 unless the Delhi high court intervenes in support of the Centre's concerns, expressed through a secret Intelligence Bureau assessment that claimed he had been radicalised.

On Monday, the Delhi government's department of women and child development (WCD) unveiled a rehabilitation plan for the juvenile - who is over 20 years now - under which it will give him a one-time financial grant of Rs 10,000 and arrange for a sewing machine so that he can rent a tailoring shop.

The move provoked objections from the Centre which remained apprehensive about his "mental condition" and wanted his detention extended. The court reserved its order on the issue.

"The juvenile in Nirbhaya case needs to be supported financially jointly by his parents and by the Delhi government," the WCD department said in a report, adding that he needed help to sustain a business for an initial period of at least six months and meet expenses such renting a shop and procuring tailoring material, a signboard for his shop, receipt books, hangers etc.

The whole thing is infuriating, but I can't think of a specific thing that should be done differently. I mean, it's maddening that he's getting out so quickly, but then again I also get infuriated when the US sentences minors to life in prison or execution. And unlike the US, India doesn't allow holding people convicted as minors after they are 21 (except, as noted in the article, under the rubric of "radicalization", which is an interesting direction this may take).

And, I mean, my God: they're giving the man a sewing machine and helping him set up a small business?! That makes me want to bang my head against a wall. But... that's probably a better outcome for society than him just being dumped on the street with no means of support.

This whole case has just been horrible.

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Juvenile convicted in 2012 Delhi rape to be released soon (Original Post) Recursion Dec 2015 OP

He was a child too Kber Dec 2015 #1

I know nothing about the court and justice system in India. Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #2

Your sentence "better outcome for society" hits the nail on the head. Massacure Dec 2015 #3

i find this disgusting. he was old enough and she died . JI7 Dec 2015 #4

Kber

(5,043 posts)

1. He was a child too

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:11 PM

Dec 2015

Misguided by his elders and maybe not rehabilitated at all.

but 17 is too young to be too old to be redeemed.

I'm cynical enough to fear he will not learn, but optimistic enough to hope someday he realizes how much his world view and personal assumptions need to change.

I share your grief mingled with hope. Humanity is hard some days.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)

2. I know nothing about the court and justice system in India.

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:30 PM

Dec 2015

This case has me baffled.

Massacure

(7,525 posts)

3. Your sentence "better outcome for society" hits the nail on the head.

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:53 PM

Dec 2015

There is a point at which longer prison sentences no longer have a deterrent effect - the risk 20 year sentence won't deter someone any more than a 5 year sentence will. Sometimes you have to offer a carrot when the stick is no longer effective. Many European countries realize this and really much more heavily on community service and probation than the United States does.

Also, in regards to your comment about the United States handing down death sentences for minors -- in 2005 the Supreme Court ruled in Roper vs Simmons that it was unconstitutional to carry out the death penalty against someone who committed a criminal act under the age of 18.

JI7

(89,252 posts)

4. i find this disgusting. he was old enough and she died .

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 01:39 AM

Dec 2015

and to set him up with a business ?

we aren't talking about crimes most young people are involved in such as shoplifting, drugs , cheating etc.

he raped and killed someone.

i hope he gets into some car accident or something and ends up being killed but no other person gets hurt . more likely though he will probably rape and abuse other women.

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