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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:21 PM Dec 2015

Whites against Trump: Kamau Bell tells white people, yes, even you good liberals, come get your boy

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/15/whites_against_trump_kamau_bell_tells_white_people_yes_even_you_good_liberals_to_come_get_your_boy/

I posted this message (Does anybody say “status update” anymore?) to both my personal and my public Facebook page. I think you saw it, but if not, read it here.

“Donald Trump isn’t a Republican issue or a rich people issue or a human issue. Donald Trump is a white people issue. Whenever Ben Carson says batshit crazy nonsense, Black people rise up, and let him know that he needs to STFU. Whenever Raven-Symone pops off, we put her cap back on. We even handled Rachel Dolezal for you. Yes, we also make jokes and come up with clever memes and hashtags, but at the core of all that is that we are letting these people know that they are embarrassing us as Black people. It is time, white people, for you to finally step up and recognize that you also (even more so) have a responsibility to your race. It is up to you to silence Donald Trump. Don’t just insult him and make fun of him. You have to connect it to your race. Recognize that he is embarrassing you as a white person. Simple snark won’t win here. You have to feel it. You have to use words like “as a white person” and “he is an embarrassment to my race.” Stop acting like Trump isn’t the pinnacle and the result of America’s history and tradition of white supremacy. And again, P.S.: Simply put, white people, come get your boy.”...

Kamau,
This idea fascinates me on a lot of levels. First of all, you’ve hit on something very true: white people in this country never feel any need or any pressure to denounce/regulate/distance themselves from other white people when those white people act out of pocket. Black people, and every other racial/ethnic/religious/sexual minority, understand “come and get your boy” all too well. Being forced to account for someone else’s words or actions is particularly old hat for black people – as is being made to speak on behalf of All The Black People, as translators or apologists, whether they want to or not. Similarly, everybody but white people has become well acquainted with the feeling of oh fuck, please don’t let him be while waiting to find out the identity of a criminal, an alleged criminal – hell, at this point, even a victim.

All this is because whiteness is invisible. To white people, anyway. The idea of checking Donald Trump just because he’s white makes as much sense to us as the idea of chastising an elephant for taking a dump just because we’re both carbon-based life forms.
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Whites against Trump: Kamau Bell tells white people, yes, even you good liberals, come get your boy (Original Post) KamaAina Dec 2015 OP
W. Kamau Bell is one of the smartest people out there. virtualobserver Dec 2015 #1
He is indeed. I have still not forgiven FXX for canceling Totally Biased. KamaAina Dec 2015 #10
cancelling his show was a crime against humanity virtualobserver Dec 2015 #11
Deets? KamaAina Dec 2015 #13
united shades of america virtualobserver Dec 2015 #14
Mahalo (thank you). KamaAina Dec 2015 #15
are you hawaiian? virtualobserver Dec 2015 #16
No, I'm a haole (Caucasian) who lived in the islands for several years KamaAina Dec 2015 #17
Wow ... That's good stuff right there ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #2
Yeah, nah. All or nothing. Shandris Dec 2015 #3
Pure nonsense Yorktown Dec 2015 #4
Instead of dividing the liberal base with petty identity politics romanic Dec 2015 #5
If you want to stop dividing the country along the lines of "petty identity politics" Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #6
Agreed - and he needs to be shamed as do his supporters JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #7
Those petty identity politics, as you put it, are the reason Trump has a good chance at the GOP kcr Dec 2015 #8
D. Trumpy ain't my boy. Chan790 Dec 2015 #9
Two things wrong with this FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #12
#2 is especially obvious. ShrimpPoboy Dec 2015 #18
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
11. cancelling his show was a crime against humanity
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:33 PM
Dec 2015

I look forward to his new show on CNN next year.....although the CNN part scares me.

How much truth can get through the CNN filter?

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
3. Yeah, nah. All or nothing.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:08 AM
Dec 2015

Pick a side and stick with it. Either everyone should condemn everything from their 'race' (what is a race?) and/or 'color' (how do I tell who is 'White'? 'Black'? 'Turquoise'?), or it's an individual problem. No half and half, no bigotry disguised as 'nuance', none of that.

The D&C is getting out of hand.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
4. Pure nonsense
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:15 AM
Dec 2015

Lots of newspapers have exposed Trump for the demagogue he is.

(the NYT comes to mind)

Are all their journalists blacks or eskimos?

romanic

(2,841 posts)
5. Instead of dividing the liberal base with petty identity politics
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:54 AM
Dec 2015

how about everyone, white or otherwise, focus on getting Trump away from the White House?

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
6. If you want to stop dividing the country along the lines of "petty identity politics"
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:11 AM
Dec 2015

then you need to look at Donald Trump, as that's ~95% of his appeal...and the other Republicans aren't any better, really.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
7. Agreed - and he needs to be shamed as do his supporters
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:50 AM
Dec 2015

This idea fascinates me on a lot of levels. First of all, you’ve hit on something very true: white people in this country never feel any need or any pressure to denounce/regulate/distance themselves from other white people when those white people act out of pocket. Black people, and every other racial/ethnic/religious/sexual minority, understand “come and get your boy” all too well. Being forced to account for someone else’s words or actions is particularly old hat for black people – as is being made to speak on behalf of All The Black People, as translators or apologists, whether they want to or not. Similarly, everybody but white people has become well acquainted with the feeling of oh fuck, please don’t let him be while waiting to find out the identity of a criminal, an alleged criminal – hell, at this point, even a victim.


Muslims forced to condemn radical Islam.
Black people forced to condemn Tawana Brawley/OJ.
American Jews forced to condemn Israel.

Etc etc.

I'll only be respond to you in this thread Chi.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
8. Those petty identity politics, as you put it, are the reason Trump has a good chance at the GOP
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 06:20 AM
Dec 2015

Ignoring that won't help fight against Trump. Personally I think the GOP deserves him. Fitting candidate for today's GOP.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
9. D. Trumpy ain't my boy.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:16 AM
Dec 2015

I've been denouncing him for months and all I get from it is told that he's "misunderstood" and has "great ideas that scare the mainstream of both parties" by his supporters.

If it were up to me, I'd lock him in a cage in Hell with Hillary (Yup, I consider them to be equal threats to the American wellbeing and equivalently unsuited to the Presidency. It's why I will never vote for either of them.) to oppose each other for President of their cage in Hell and we could all go back to trying to solve America's real problems: inequality and structural unfairness, environmental and economic concerns, infrastructure and social services, healthcare and a looming retirement crisis, unemployment and energy dependency.

We don't need any Nazis or MIC/Wall Street Corporatist puppets for President. A fascist is a fascist any way you slice it; Illary's just a more-business minded fascist like Mussolini while Trump's a racist fascist like Hitler.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
12. Two things wrong with this
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:44 PM
Dec 2015

1) Where has been this big rise up by black people against Carson. I've seen more disruption of Hillary and Bernie campaigns by blacks than all of Carsons combined. Get off your high horse, blacks haven't done much against Carson.

2) Trump has been blasted by white people in/out of the media continuously.

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