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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:23 AM Dec 2015

For those who still don't "get" white supremacy: "How I discovered I am White"

http://www.renegademothering.com/2014/12/09/discovered-white/

I realized the reason I had never thought about race was because I was of the privileged one, because I didn’t have to, NOT BECAUSE RACIAL DISPARITY DIDN’T EXIST. I didn’t have to think about race because I was having a fundamentally different life experience than people of color. But I could ignore them, because of my privilege.

SNIP

Does it mean that I am a bad person? Nope.

It means that we live in a highly racialized society rooted in a history of discrimination and that we have a long way to go. It means that watching “The Help” and feeling bad is not enough. Sentimentality is not action. It means that I have had an advantage over people of color. Yes, always. Yes, no matter what. Because even if you’re poor and white you can join the culture of power by learning the walk and talk. But you can’t change your skin color.

From the day I was first introduced to this “other story,” I couldn’t get enough. Not because I’m some sort of saint or conspiracy theorist, but because I was curious. I was interested out of a sense of shared humanity. And I was fucking angry that I had been swindled. I wanted the truth. Or, I wanted a fuller picture. I wanted more sides.

That, my friends, is pathetic in its privilege.

I learned in graduate school what every person of color knows through life experience. I learned in graduate school that we weren’t “fixed” during the Civil Rights movement.

But when this information was presented to me I felt a sense of relief, because I think deep down I always knew something was terribly wrong, but I couldn’t put my finger on it.
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For those who still don't "get" white supremacy: "How I discovered I am White" (Original Post) pnwmom Dec 2015 OP
This will not be met well ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #1
Boo Hoo! Poor blonde white woman "I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth but..." 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #4
She is NOT claiming to be a victim of any sort. Maybe you need to pnwmom Dec 2015 #5
I read what she said and she is doing exactly that 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #8
K&R. nt DLevine Dec 2015 #2
"Sentimentality is not enough" Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #3
Yes, I agree that ... ananda Dec 2015 #7
Wow. In that very lengthy article there is not one single concrete suggestion Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #6
The first step -- which many even here haven't reached -- is to acknowledge the reality pnwmom Dec 2015 #10
By "white privilege" you mean "unlikely to be a target of racism", right? Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #12
Is this what the AfAm community wants? Evangelical, born-again white people? aikoaiko Dec 2015 #9
Better that than white people who insist on denying that white privilege exists. nt pnwmom Dec 2015 #11
Should being treated courteously by a cop be considered a "privilege"? Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #13
Taking that courtesy for granted is "white privilege" in the sense that it is something pnwmom Dec 2015 #14
White people should be aware that racism exists and should work towards ending it. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #15
White privilege is experienced by ALL whites, whether or not they are racist. pnwmom Dec 2015 #16
You are using "privilege" to mean "does not experience racism". Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #17
Yes, I am. I'm not trying to be elected, pnwmom Dec 2015 #18
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. This will not be met well ...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:37 AM
Dec 2015


The dozen or so DUers I would have read this ... won't, or if they do it would be only to say they disagree.
 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
4. Boo Hoo! Poor blonde white woman "I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth but..."
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:02 AM
Dec 2015

"I'm the real victim here!"

We get it, you're privileged and others are not, way to rub it in everybody's faces while pretending to care.



It means that watching “The Help” and feeling bad is not enough.


Give me a break lady

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
5. She is NOT claiming to be a victim of any sort. Maybe you need to
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:08 AM
Dec 2015

try actually reading her words, instead of looking at her picture.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
8. I read what she said and she is doing exactly that
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:22 AM
Dec 2015

Its all about "I'm white, I'm privileged but I'm the real victim here for not understanding how you people feel".

It means that watching “The Help” and feeling bad is not enough.


Is she so isolated in her little white suburbia bubble that she feels the only way of connecting and relating to "people of color" is by watching The Help?



Hey lady, why don't you try stepping out of your bubble and volunteering at a youth center or become a social services worker.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
3. "Sentimentality is not enough"
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:47 AM
Dec 2015

Ding.

"White guilt", at best, is useless. At its worst, it shifts victimhood over to poor put-upon white guys and girls who feel so very bad about how people of color are (or even worse, "were&quot treated in this country. People don't need sympathy, they need systemic change.

But I agree on another point: privilege is sometimes difficult to identify when you're part of the privileged group. I had always been aware that people of color were treated differently from myself, but I did not understand the scope of the difference until I took a course on systemic racism back in college.

The most valuable lesson I took from that course: "passive anti-racism" is a contradiction of terms.

ananda

(28,866 posts)
7. Yes, I agree that ...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:19 AM
Dec 2015

... racism has to be actively healed.

And the key to this is recognizing one's own and coming to terms
with it. This has not been easy for me, so every so often I examine
my inner thoughts and outward actions to see if they match, because
outwardly I can put on quite a show of being against racism and
treating people well.. but I know there are still places where I need
to examine my heart and mind because there is just so much poison
out there and it can be contagious even if I don't want it to be.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. Wow. In that very lengthy article there is not one single concrete suggestion
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:15 AM
Dec 2015

of how we can help reduce racism. The author talks about how at the age of 14 she was angry that her school did not have a "white" club, and it seems that even now she is much more concerned about her own feelings than about helping to address the problem.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
10. The first step -- which many even here haven't reached -- is to acknowledge the reality
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:45 AM
Dec 2015

of white privilege. And that is what she addresses in this essay.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. By "white privilege" you mean "unlikely to be a target of racism", right?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:54 AM
Dec 2015

I think everyone here acknowledges that racism exists and that vastly more black people than white people are victimized by it.

That covers in a single sentence what it took the blog author over 30 paragraphs to say.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
13. Should being treated courteously by a cop be considered a "privilege"?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:01 AM
Dec 2015

Or is being treated courteously by a cop how everyone should be treated, regardless of their skin color?

If a police department hires a racist cop who treats black people like shit, that doesn't mean that the white people in that town have suddenly acquired extra "privilege". It just means that there is a racist cop who deserves to be disciplined and fired.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
14. Taking that courtesy for granted is "white privilege" in the sense that it is something
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:16 AM
Dec 2015

most white people can do -- and that black people cannot, no matter what their status in life.

For example, a white professor in Boston would not be detained by police simply for going to lunch while wearing a "puffy jacket" and a knitted cap -- as happened recently to a 51 year old black professor.

I think you could benefit from reading the whole article. It explains it better than I.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
15. White people should be aware that racism exists and should work towards ending it.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:21 AM
Dec 2015

I'm not sure why you prefer the word "privilege" to the word "racism". Racism is ugly, yes, but we need to confront it, not disguise it with euphemisms.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
16. White privilege is experienced by ALL whites, whether or not they are racist.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:18 PM
Dec 2015

The words "white privilege" and "racism" refer to different things -- it's not a matter of preferring one word over another.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
17. You are using "privilege" to mean "does not experience racism".
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:30 PM
Dec 2015

I prefer Barack Obama's approach. He has made several excellent speeches about racism but in none of those speeches has he ever used the phrase "white privilege".

Again, being treated professionally and courteously in a non-racist manner should be an expectation, not a "privilege".

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. Yes, I am. I'm not trying to be elected,
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:29 PM
Dec 2015

so unlike the President I can talk about white privilege using a term some people don't prefer.

But is true anyway.

It is also true, as you say, that being treated in a non-racist manner SHOULD be an expectation.

But it isn't. That's only an expectation white people can have in this country, in 2015. It is a privilege that black people don't have. They know it isn't true, and for them to "expect" it won't make it true.

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