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yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:17 AM Dec 2015

I predict people will tire of Trump and he will fade away.

Trump is a car wreck. At first it is exciting to watch a car wreck but if there is a car wreck every day at the same site eventually people get tired of sitting in traffic and take an alternate route.

Kind of like Kim Davis. Remember her?

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I predict people will tire of Trump and he will fade away. (Original Post) yellowcanine Dec 2015 OP
I hope not. Dawgs Dec 2015 #1
Please, not until after the GOP convention Funtatlaguy Dec 2015 #6
I used to think so to but that does not appear to be happening yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #2
If he melts down at the debate tonight because he doesn't like the questions kimbutgar Dec 2015 #3
He's ALREADY showing himself to be unfit Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2015 #26
He's already proved over and over that he's unfit. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #28
And the higher his poll numbers go, the more outrageous he becomes. winter is coming Dec 2015 #33
He is keeping it fresh madville Dec 2015 #4
They can only up the ante so many times. yellowcanine Dec 2015 #11
His popularity demonstrates a vile sickness onecaliberal Dec 2015 #5
Maybe he'll be eclipsed by an even Turbineguy Dec 2015 #7
I don't think so. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #8
Not all their primaries are winner-take-all. subterranean Dec 2015 #17
Thank you for the correction. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #20
Better to burn then to fade away. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #9
'Hate never sleeps.' nt GreatGazoo Dec 2015 #23
No, heartburn never sleeps. The rightwnig worldview is not the same as mine. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #25
Hate gathers strange crowds, Trump pushes hate towards ethnic groups and this sells Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #10
3 months ago I said the same. It's not happening whatthehey Dec 2015 #12
Yes, Conventional Wisdom is often wrong. Was then. Is now. yellowcanine Dec 2015 #14
Same thing the experts have said since the beginning firebrand80 Dec 2015 #13
Whats more likely is that Trump will wake up and realize presidentin' is more work than he wants tularetom Dec 2015 #15
"not running for king"...good one. I'm still 50/50 on his success. But absolutely, the first libdem4life Dec 2015 #27
hmm i seem to recall people saying similar things about Ronald Reagan 0rganism Dec 2015 #16
The difference I see...and I lived in California when he was elected...was that he had unbounded libdem4life Dec 2015 #30
He might crash and burn... after the election. backscatter712 Dec 2015 #18
Any month now. Or any week now, as I used to say. Orsino Dec 2015 #19
I'm sure sick of seeing his face. leftyladyfrommo Dec 2015 #21
I wouldn't be surprised if he was being paid by Fox News or some other media entities... cbdo2007 Dec 2015 #22
My completely un-objective guess as to Trump in the coming four weeks... LanternWaste Dec 2015 #24
Some said the same of Hitler. Don't take him for granted. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #29
Haven't most people tired of Trump Johonny Dec 2015 #31
trump has been around a lot longer than kim davis JI7 Dec 2015 #32

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
6. Please, not until after the GOP convention
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:24 AM
Dec 2015

If he is their nominee, we will have the greatest landslide since Nixon/McGovern.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. I used to think so to but that does not appear to be happening
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:20 AM
Dec 2015

The primary begins in like 42 days. If it was another six months maybe. I think we are stuck with him for a long while yet.

kimbutgar

(21,162 posts)
3. If he melts down at the debate tonight because he doesn't like the questions
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:22 AM
Dec 2015

And walks off stage. It will show he is truly unfit to be president.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
26. He's ALREADY showing himself to be unfit
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:24 PM
Dec 2015

Why would another sucky debate performance make a difference now?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,733 posts)
28. He's already proved over and over that he's unfit.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:30 PM
Dec 2015

And the more outrageous things he says and does, the higher his poll numbers go. If he walks off the stage tonight the knuckledraggers will love him more than ever because they'll see him as defying the "establishment."

madville

(7,412 posts)
4. He is keeping it fresh
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:24 AM
Dec 2015

I figure they already have preplanned offensive positions and comments mapped out in order to keep his name in the news 24/7.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
11. They can only up the ante so many times.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:53 AM
Dec 2015

People are already walking away from his rallies before he is finished ranting.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
5. His popularity demonstrates a vile sickness
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:24 AM
Dec 2015

That has enveloped the Republican party. It would be kinda fun to watch if it weren't so completely horrendous. The cancer has been exposed, its out in the open for all to view.

Turbineguy

(37,343 posts)
7. Maybe he'll be eclipsed by an even
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:24 AM
Dec 2015

crazier bigot. Who knows, maybe Hitler has a grandson or something. Republicans would flock to that. The genuine article.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
8. I don't think so.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:26 AM
Dec 2015

The GOP primary is also set up as winner take all for each state. Trump could easily get the nomination while only receiving 15% to 20% of the vote in each state.

That's some scary shit.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
17. Not all their primaries are winner-take-all.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 01:01 PM
Dec 2015

The ones held between March 1 and March 14 will award delegates on a proportional basis. After that, it's winner-take-all.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
20. Thank you for the correction.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:42 PM
Dec 2015

Admittedly, I hadn't read too much into the R process as the end result will be the same, a nut bag will win the primary.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
9. Better to burn then to fade away.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

He is a symptom that the the right wants to burn everything and remake it like it never was.

The far right is tired of being promised things that the Republican establishment never delivers.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
25. No, heartburn never sleeps. The rightwnig worldview is not the same as mine.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:22 PM
Dec 2015

But they have been promised lots of things by Republican's in office, who never seriously tried to deliver even when they had total control under Bush.

Trump, Cruz, and Carson are not beholden to the Rightwing leadership. Trump is seen as completely outside the political Washington class. The later two are rightwing religious revolutionaries actively disliked by the leadership of the party, who consider them un electable in the general election.

How would you feel if the Democratic Party had promised all the programs and policies that you hold dear for four decades and not delivered on even one?

You would start looking for someone outside the normal Democratic circle of candidates.

Trump, Cruz, and Carson are Republican's version of that.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Hate gathers strange crowds, Trump pushes hate towards ethnic groups and this sells
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

to the Dixiecrats. They are white and angry, ready to inflict their venom onto anyone who is not white.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
12. 3 months ago I said the same. It's not happening
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:57 AM
Dec 2015

Could the RWNJs find somebody else to coalesce around to maintain some fig leaf of not being overtly racist and hateful? Possibly. Not sure who. Cruz has burned too many bridges, Rubio has the skills of a HS freshman class president candidate at best, Carson is just borderline sane and the others are either tainted by repeat losses and/or considered impure RINOS by the fanatic fringe who dominate primary voting in the GOP.

Could there be either a brokered convention or a last minute Faustian bargain to combine delegates to force an establishment candidate? Possibly. But that means an Indie or major write in campaign for Trump that guarantees a Dem landslide and, depending on the whim of a paranoid thinskinned billionaire, possible huge downticket losses if he decides to lash out back at them (what are the odds he'd accept a snub with equanimity?) and inform his brownshirt wannabe followers to refrain from voting for any Republican at any level.

Remember we are dealing with a GOP faithful electorate that IS racist and dumb and bigoted and incapable of nuance and slavering at the thought of a leader who talks like them. When we talk about the balance of RW power being between the plutocrats and the Teabag nation, that balance is only in party influence and funding and lobbying strength. The actual numbers of voters is massively imbalanced in their primary universe toward the knuckle-dragging troglodytes. There aren't enough MBAs and millionaires to outvote that crowd.

Whether Trump gets the nom or not (about evens in my opinion) we can pretty much guarantee that absent the seismic shift of, say, all other candidates simultaneously dropping out and endorsing Cruz or Rubio, he will get a plurality of primary voters.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
14. Yes, Conventional Wisdom is often wrong. Was then. Is now.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 12:18 PM
Dec 2015

The old CW was that Trump would crash and burn. It was wrong. The new CW is that nothing will stop Trump. It is also wrong. He is still not going to crash and burn but that is not in fact the way most candidacies end. Trump will likely never actually drop out but my prediction is that he will not have the most delegates going into the convention.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
15. Whats more likely is that Trump will wake up and realize presidentin' is more work than he wants
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 12:28 PM
Dec 2015

I don't see anything preventing his nomination, and if the Democrats don't wake up and nominate the right opponent, he could conceivably be elected.

But when he finally comes to the realization that he's not running for king, and that he has to actually get stuff done, and that people will regard him as a failure and a loser when he can't deliver all the crap he promises, he'll find some excuse to drop out.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
27. "not running for king"...good one. I'm still 50/50 on his success. But absolutely, the first
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:28 PM
Dec 2015

real experience of a concept he knows little about "No", he'll start to reconsider.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
16. hmm i seem to recall people saying similar things about Ronald Reagan
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 12:29 PM
Dec 2015

before he was governor of California

Kim Davis is some kind of celebrity martyr now, and Kentucky recently voted in a Republican governor because of her tantrums

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
30. The difference I see...and I lived in California when he was elected...was that he had unbounded
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:34 PM
Dec 2015

charm, well-honed acting skills, good-looking, and Nancy was the epitome of graciousness. I did not vote for him and his policies were ruinous in many ways, but the old debate meme "There ya go again" was his way of sluffing off criticism with sheer imperial abandon.



backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
18. He might crash and burn... after the election.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 01:06 PM
Dec 2015

Hopefully, he doesn't quite have enough popularity to actually win, so he may turn out to be like Sarah Palin - with quite a few more months where we get to have his face inflicted upon us by the TV, but after that, his star will finally fade.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
19. Any month now. Or any week now, as I used to say.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:29 PM
Dec 2015

It seems he's only in the campaign for self-promotion. He's not wasting his time wrassling donors, and certainly isn't studying economics or current affairs. It's pretty obvious to me that he's not planning on entering any serious debate, as against the Democratic nominee.

Closer to the election, more and more aware Republican voters will be preferring an Establishment candidate, and I think Trump's fragile ego will not risk coming in second. He'll insult us all, come up with a bullshit excuse, and quit, sputtering about an independent run that won't happen.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
22. I wouldn't be surprised if he was being paid by Fox News or some other media entities...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:45 PM
Dec 2015

to stay out there and keep saying ridiculous stuff. I wish Anonymous could track down who is paying him to put on this charade. It's obviously not real and doesn't seem to have any real agenda besides publicity and media attention.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. My completely un-objective guess as to Trump in the coming four weeks...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:20 PM
Dec 2015

I think he hits his high-mark this week, plateaus next week, dives precipitously the following week, and finally becomes a guilty memory of gullible half-wits the week after that.

He's a hair-do... and though hair-do's are popular, I give the benefit of the doubt to the collective electorate to place the popular, the pretentious and the ineffectual to the side when casting a meaningful vote.

His only (admitted) supporters left will be those same buffoons who think Sarah Palin has the brain of an academic.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
31. Haven't most people tired of Trump
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:38 PM
Dec 2015

He has a large following but not even a majority following. He's sort of like FOX news. He has a large minority of people that likely won't give him up until the end of time. But they aren't a great in number as the media pretends it is. He has huge dislike numbers that he is unlikely to overcome to win a national election. The GOP is stuck without a safe candidate so who knows what's going to happen in these primaries.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
32. trump has been around a lot longer than kim davis
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:50 PM
Dec 2015

And as for davis the people of kentucky were mostly fine with her and elected a republican for gov who supported her

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