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alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:21 PM Dec 2015

The Shkreli Indictment is, Honestly, Hilarious

Here's the short version: Shkreli set up two "hedge funds" and sought investors for them. They both worked the same way, using three entities:

1) The hedge fund itself, a limited partnership. The investors were limited partners in the fund. There was one general (controlling) partner, which was a limited liability company controlled by Shkreli (see 2)).

2) The limited liability company as general partner of entity 1. This was, essentially, Shkreli himself.

3) A second limited liability company, which served as investment advisor to the limited partnership. This was also Shkreli.

In both cases, the limited partnership sought investors, who put money into it. They paid fees to the general partner (1%) and the investment advisor (20% of profits). Both of those are Shkreli.

So, Shkreli is a partner in entity 1 through his role as controller of entity 2, and he provides advice to entity 1 through his role as controller of entity 3. Now on to the funny part:

Shkreli, far from being a boy genius, is actually really fucking bad at investing.

One of his hedge funds took in $700,000 in investments. A year later, the fund had $700 in assets. That is, he lost $699,300 in trading in one year! Nevertheless, he convinced new investors to put about $3 million back into the fund, mainly by telling them that the fund's assets ($700, mind you) were at $35 MILLION. MILLION! He had seven hundred dollars in the fund and told a potential investor that he had THIRTY-FIVE MILLION. Wait a second...



So, what does he do with the new influx of funds? He promptly loses the $3 million, which turns into $58,000 in less than a month. One reason? He poorly executed a short position that left both him and his brokerage (Merrill) damn near $10 million in the hole! Boy genius! Entrepreneur!



Why is this guy even allowed near a bank account? A random group of American high school sophomores could perform better on the market with a weekend's worth of training. This guy is not only an asshole, he's also a fucking moron.

The last stroke of genius was to use completely made up assets of pharmaceutical company he basically made up in order to pay back the duped investors of the hedge funds, who were, of course, shouting for their money (he told them they'd doubled it, even though he lost it ALL), and there was no money. When it became clear that the company's auditor was going to ask why this publicly traded company was paying these random, unrelated people for DOING NOTHING, he set up fake consulting agreements.

To be honest, any investor in the hedge fund who entered into a fake consulting agreement should also be charged for fraud.

What a piddling shit show.




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The Shkreli Indictment is, Honestly, Hilarious (Original Post) alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 OP
Was Bernie Madoff his mentor? Laurian Dec 2015 #1
This was way too low-level and stupid for even Madoff alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #3
He setup a Ponzi scheme, and it isn't hilarious to those who invested with him still_one Dec 2015 #2
The fewer than ten investors got soaked, for sure alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #5
Why would Turing Pharmaceuticals hire him? still_one Dec 2015 #8
He's listed as the "founder and CEO" alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #10
It puzzles me as to why so many people were willing to repose so much trust in him.... marmar Dec 2015 #4
One of the charges is that he claimed to have independent auditors and management alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #6
And as the old sayin goes - If they steal with you, they will steal from you.. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2015 #9
No wonder he raised the price of drugs he controlled by 1-1/2 million percent. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #7
If he trades cigarettes like he trades hedge fund investments, he is going to have a rough time corkhead Dec 2015 #11
Cigarettes are banned in federal prisons alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #12
What happens to Daraprim now? groundloop Dec 2015 #13
Supposedly, Turing is moving to oust him alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #15
Now we know why he jacked the price of that drug. Thor_MN Dec 2015 #14
I wonder how much of that money went up his nose in powder form? csziggy Dec 2015 #16
Cocaine's a hell of a drug! nt sir pball Dec 2015 #17
he's lucky he got arrested Bucky Dec 2015 #18
I do have to wonder about the character of some of these investors alcibiades_mystery Dec 2015 #19
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
3. This was way too low-level and stupid for even Madoff
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:26 PM
Dec 2015

Madoff was actually not investing and losing a dime. His was a straight Ponzi scheme. Shkreli was investing and getting soaked.

That said, he did also withdraw quite a bit for his own purposes (a la Madoff).

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. The fewer than ten investors got soaked, for sure
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:29 PM
Dec 2015

They are suing him.

It is, nevertheless, hilarious 1) how piddling the whole thing was and 2) how deeply incompetent Shkreli is.

I suppose it will be taken as victim blaming, but I do have to wonder how you fork over $1 million on say-so to somebody like Shkreli. His fund had $700 in it. He told the guy $35 million. I don't care where you're from: that's fucking funny.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
10. He's listed as the "founder and CEO"
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:48 PM
Dec 2015

He had previously "founded" the pharmaceutical companies listed in the indictment as well, one of which did nothing (it was a shell company for asset inflation).

marmar

(77,090 posts)
4. It puzzles me as to why so many people were willing to repose so much trust in him....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:28 PM
Dec 2015

Maybe they pegged him as an unscrupulous hustler and figured he'd be able to boost their returns by any means necessary?




 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
6. One of the charges is that he claimed to have independent auditors and management
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:33 PM
Dec 2015

He did not.

Still, you'd think somebody would kick the tires before dropping a mill on Martin Shkreli. What the fuck?

There's also a really weird gap: Investor #1 (owed in the area of 1.3 million) requests redemption in writing in January 2012 and still hasn't received it in September, when the second scheme kicks off. You'd think a dude would move faster on that if they're bothering with the certified letter.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
12. Cigarettes are banned in federal prisons
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:52 PM
Dec 2015

I do think he will get at least 18 months in prison for these crimes, though.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. Supposedly, Turing is moving to oust him
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:22 PM
Dec 2015

Who knows. The general consensus is that Turing is unrelated to these goings-on, but it is very clear that Shkreli used the last "pharma company" (I use the term very loosely) he founded as an asset inflator and general slush-fund for handling the hedge fund losses. The question is whether Turing operates in much the same way for some other con game, apart from the basic evil of the price gouge.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
14. Now we know why he jacked the price of that drug.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:12 PM
Dec 2015

And he totally failed with that as another drug company is going to produce an alternative that contains the active ingredient in this asshole's $750 pill for $1. That's even less than what it was before dumbass got involved.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
16. I wonder how much of that money went up his nose in powder form?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:42 PM
Dec 2015

He really reminds me of the cocaine snorting in The Wolf of Wall Street:

Bucky

(54,053 posts)
18. he's lucky he got arrested
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:14 PM
Dec 2015

at least he's physically safe from his investors and has a chance of eating 3 squares a day

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
19. I do have to wonder about the character of some of these investors
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 04:04 PM
Dec 2015

The consulting agreements in lieu of ordinary redemption especially sound like no-show construction jobs, ahem. What above-board investor agrees to enter into a fraudulent consulting agreement with a publicly traded company in order to be redeemed for an investment in an unrelated hedge fund? It's hinky as all git out.

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