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applegrove

(118,772 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:44 PM Dec 2015

Obama: The GOP Is The Only Major Party In The World Denying Global Warming

Obama: The GOP Is The Only Major Party In The World Denying Global Warming

by Mollie Reilly at the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-gop-climate-change_5674678be4b014efe0d56a72?utm_hp_ref=politics

"SNIP............

Speaking during his year-end press conference Friday, Obama was asked if he's concerned that the GOP will derail the global climate agreement reached in Paris last week.

"Do I think that there's going to be lot of noise and campaigning next year about how [the GOP is] going to stop Paris in its tracks? There will probably be a lot of noise like that," Obama said. "The American Republican Party is the only major party that I can think of in the advanced world that effectively denies climate change."

"It's an outlier," he continued. "Many of the key signatories to this deal, the architects of this deal, come from center-right governments. Even the far right parties in many of these countries, they may not like immigrants for example, but yeah they admit, yeah, the science tells us we have to do something about climate change."

He added that while the GOP's climate denial rhetoric may provide a short term advantage in the 2016 presidential campaign, "it's not something that's going to be a winner for Republicans long term."



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Obama: The GOP Is The Only Major Party In The World Denying Global Warming (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2015 OP
He was on Bear Grylls show last night, surviving (not really LOL) in Alaska, but he did it to randys1 Dec 2015 #1
It's also the only major party party in the 1st world that meets all 14 criteria for fascism. forest444 Dec 2015 #2
Oh yuck. applegrove Dec 2015 #4
And how. forest444 Dec 2015 #5
I don't quite understand your criteria exactly. I know it's me, I'm no writer. applegrove Dec 2015 #6
Sure. forest444 Dec 2015 #8
I don't think you need to be that specific. I think scapegoating covers what you are trying to say applegrove Dec 2015 #7
You're right. Point 3 pretty much covers it. forest444 Dec 2015 #9
Grand Oil Party. rec. nt. Mc Mike Dec 2015 #3

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. He was on Bear Grylls show last night, surviving (not really LOL) in Alaska, but he did it to
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:47 PM
Dec 2015

point out the climate change.

Obama is doing more than any other single individual on the planet to try and work on this.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
2. It's also the only major party party in the 1st world that meets all 14 criteria for fascism.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 07:52 PM
Dec 2015
http://rense.com/general37/fascism.htm

All political parties probably incorporate at least some of that; but going down that list sounds like the very history of the GOP since 1980.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
5. And how.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:09 AM
Dec 2015

I would have added a fifteenth criteria to the list:

The active encouragement and use of ethnic hatred, usually against minorities but sometimes on behalf of a minority and against the majority if the former group is already privileged and supports the regime (such as in Chile under Pinochet).


Said list is now GOP's real credo, sadly. Lincoln, Grant, Ike, Dirksen, and Rockefeller, rolling in their graves.

applegrove

(118,772 posts)
6. I don't quite understand your criteria exactly. I know it's me, I'm no writer.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:52 AM
Dec 2015

Could you give another stab at it?

forest444

(5,902 posts)
8. Sure.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:17 AM
Dec 2015

I'm referring to the use most fascist parties like to make of racism as a wedge by which to steer a certain group of people to their side, and of course a cudgel to use against whatever group makes the easiest target.

To use the U.S. example, let's take the rhetoric one hears all the time from Republican voters (when they've had a few, anyway):

"I'm white, so I vote Republican; Democrats only care about minorities."


Which naturally follows that:

"Minorities are the biggest problem in this country; Democrats enable them."


Ok. That person might not admit it; but he (or she) probably didn't wake up one morning with that 'revelation'. That voter is regurgitating what right-wing radio, writers, and some politicians have been deliberately and systematically feeding him since around 1980 (if not earlier).

The goal, of course, being that if enough of this type of voter (white, frustrated, highly impressionable) came to embrace this mindset, they would naturally gravitate toward the one party that entertained the hatred percolating inside that person.

So, let's say the strategy worked. Once that party achieves their goal that's when things get really interesting, because the minorities they demonized for so many years in order to fire up their base has now become an obstacle to even more power; same goes for moderate or liberal white voters who won't sing their tune.

What's a fascist regime to do? They dehumanize said minorities (and the "white traitors" who won't have it), which of course further motivates their extremist base. The problem is that once they've gone this far in their divide-and-conquer strategy, it becomes a point of no return. The hatred must be fanned into an ever-more dangerous frenzy, lest that party lose their hatred-driven momentum.

By this point, if it gets this far, the regime is populated by only the most extreme of the extreme - and that's when it all implodes. Like the proverbial snake eating its tail.

Oh, but it can't happen here. Can it?


applegrove

(118,772 posts)
7. I don't think you need to be that specific. I think scapegoating covers what you are trying to say
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:14 AM
Dec 2015

and more. Scapegoating is one group being told they are somehow without fault and worthy of great admiration and then getting them to blame their bad parts onto an other which makes the first group feel particularly special and self actualized when in fact they are pawns.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
9. You're right. Point 3 pretty much covers it.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:23 AM
Dec 2015
Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.


It's a little more general than my example, but it accurately describes the idea in broad terms.
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