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tencats

(567 posts)
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:45 AM Dec 2015

USDA will no longer enforce the Country of Origin Labeling (COOL) requirements for beef and pork

Dec 20, 2015
Say Good-Bye to ‘COOL’: Congress Repeals Country-of-Origin Meat Labeling Rule
Without these labels, consumers will have a hard time telling whether their meat is from America or Brazil.
http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/12/20/country-origin-meat?cmpid=tp-ptnr-huffpost&utm_source=huffpost&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=tp-traffic

Thanks to a label that reads “Product of the USA,” consumers have been able to find out a package of steaks or pork chops in the freezer section at their local grocery store came from America. But soon meat lovers will be hard-pressed to figure out whether the animals on their dinner plates were raised and slaughtered—in the States or halfway around the world.

The country-of-origin labeling rule, known as COOL, was repealed under the federal spending bill passed Friday by Congress, The Wall Street Journal reports. President Barack Obama added his signature to the bill as well.
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USDA will no longer enforce the Country of Origin Labeling (COOL) requirements for beef and pork (Original Post) tencats Dec 2015 OP
I am thinking this doesn't matter. leftofcool Dec 2015 #1
The beef I buy is anything but shit. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #4
Your thinking Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #7
Ridiculous. Its well known that standards are lower in other countries 7962 Dec 2015 #8
And some countries have much higher standards. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #11
I agree on the labeling. I just don't think it matters. Nasty beef is nasty beef. leftofcool Dec 2015 #13
+100 nt restorefreedom Dec 2015 #21
"We have the right to know where our damn food comes from" 90-percent Dec 2015 #15
Gotta luv those "free trade" agreeements. JEB Dec 2015 #31
One of us. One of us. One of us.......... 7962 Dec 2015 #35
I have to agree. If one is buying non-organic meat then it doesn't really matter LynneSin Dec 2015 #19
It does if we get meat from any country with an outbreak of Mad Cow Disease. pnwmom Dec 2015 #39
Why it matters Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #2
I've ground my own beef before...I can do it again Proserpina Dec 2015 #6
Once again the corporations win no matter who is President. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #3
Well, the shareholders win. raouldukelives Dec 2015 #10
And our largest pork processor was bought by the Chinese Proserpina Dec 2015 #5
You are right Lulu Belle Dec 2015 #12
But cant US companies still label their food "Produced in USA"? 7962 Dec 2015 #9
it appears so restorefreedom Dec 2015 #25
Sure. And so can Mexican companies. jeff47 Dec 2015 #28
Who do they work for again? Octafish Dec 2015 #14
It's a good time to be a vegetarian. roody Dec 2015 #16
Do you know what country and under what conditions your veggies are from? hobbit709 Dec 2015 #20
mine are primarily us grown restorefreedom Dec 2015 #22
Good point; most food borne illnesses are from vegetables 7962 Dec 2015 #34
Yes. Chan790 Dec 2015 #47
very glad, and never looked back. nt restorefreedom Dec 2015 #24
yeah--cheesecake's vegetarian and rum's vegan MisterP Dec 2015 #30
As long as the same safety standards are enforced, I don't mind eating Canadian-made food. pampango Dec 2015 #17
Same here. GoCubsGo Dec 2015 #46
I'm thankful I have a local rancher that sells grassfed meat. Javaman Dec 2015 #18
and just think, the tpp hasn't even kicked in yet restorefreedom Dec 2015 #23
Such a simple requirement overridden by money underpants Dec 2015 #26
How do we know the meat isn't coming from ISIS? firebrand80 Dec 2015 #27
You left out a very important part. jeff47 Dec 2015 #29
Bingo! Ain't "free trade" agreements great! JEB Dec 2015 #32
Might be time to switch to kangaroo KamaAina Dec 2015 #33
that's a hopping good idea tomm2thumbs Dec 2015 #36
Put some 'roo in your next batch of Hoppin' John! KamaAina Dec 2015 #40
kicking for visibility tomm2thumbs Dec 2015 #37
Me too Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #43
Kick, Kickity Kick tomm2thumbs Dec 2015 #44
So glad I don' eat that shit! MoonRiver Dec 2015 #38
Am I the only one who hears that giant sucking sound once again? mhatrw Dec 2015 #41
That's the boggle of it. Chan790 Dec 2015 #48
Buy from reputable local sources, not Walmart or Kroger pipoman Dec 2015 #42
Another kick towards the light tomm2thumbs Dec 2015 #45
Just in time. TPP is going to make it so that food and drug jwirr Dec 2015 #49

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
1. I am thinking this doesn't matter.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:48 AM
Dec 2015

Beef coming from Brazil is no worse than beef from the US. Have you seen the shit they pass off as USDA beef these days?

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
4. The beef I buy is anything but shit.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:18 AM
Dec 2015

It costs more but it's worth it to me. I can taste the difference between standard grocery meat and what I buy.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
8. Ridiculous. Its well known that standards are lower in other countries
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:43 AM
Dec 2015

We have the right to know where our damn food comes from

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
15. "We have the right to know where our damn food comes from"
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:03 AM
Dec 2015

Uh, well, no we don't. Not any more. We are all a part of the New World Order now!

When our rights as American citizens get's in the way of multi national corporation profits, then we must yield these former Rights to the God's of CORPORATE COMMERCE!

PS - didn't this right get taken away from us by some international trade groups just weeks before this legislation? WOT? or something?


-90% jimmy

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
19. I have to agree. If one is buying non-organic meat then it doesn't really matter
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:40 AM
Dec 2015

Which is why I have been buying only organic meat and lately from butchers who sell only product that is locally sourced. I live near Amish country so we have plenty of Farmer's market that ship in Amish raised meat and egg.

But even if I don't buy from the Amish then I will only buy organic meat. Ever since reading the article in Rolling Stone magazine about how Smithville Farm raises their pigs for their sausage products (Corporation farming at it's best), I have sworn off non-organic meat as much as possible!

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
2. Why it matters
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:44 AM
Dec 2015

For example mad cow disease outbreak in Britain.......... country of Origin stopped british export of this meat and contaminating other meats such as sausage


hepatitis A outbreak in Australia
from imported berries



Cases of bovine spongiform encephalopathy—mad cow disease—have been reported in Brazil as recently as 2014.


Bill Maher showed on his show The package of hamburgersaid that it contained meat from Australia, Nicaragua, New Zealand, and the United States.

Animal treatment


This was a republican bill

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
6. I've ground my own beef before...I can do it again
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:20 AM
Dec 2015

but I resent the imposition of risk upon the entire nation.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
10. Well, the shareholders win.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:46 AM
Dec 2015

Corporations only have as much power as individual shareholders are willing to turn over to them.

They decide to toss out any sort of empathy or a sense of responsibility towards others, towards nature or democracy itself. The corporations are only as powerful as the shareholders allow (and my do they allow a lot) in the time heralded pursuit of more for the most and less for the least.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
5. And our largest pork processor was bought by the Chinese
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:19 AM
Dec 2015

TPP hasn't even been foisted upon us and we are suffering. The lack of protection from tainted goods (remember the Chinese pet food scandal?) will bite real hard when it hits.

It's only a matter of time. Public health no longer matters, nor the environment. Only ONE thing count$$$$ in the bank, large amounts.

Lulu Belle

(70 posts)
12. You are right
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:53 AM
Dec 2015

The Chinese control the pork packers, and soon Argentina or Brazil will control the beef packers.
The Chinese are buying huge parcels of the best farm land in the country.
We will soon have given control of our food supply to other countries.
Greedy dirtbags in government, and lowlife corporations will be our undoing.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
9. But cant US companies still label their food "Produced in USA"?
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:45 AM
Dec 2015

And since Obama signed it, I'm guessing this wasnt a stand alone bill

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
25. it appears so
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:52 AM
Dec 2015

there does not (yet) seem to be a prohibition of labeling if you want. u.s. slaughterhouses would be smart to put "u.s. beef" or whatever on their meat.

but i would not be surprised to see pushback to force secrecy in origin.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
28. Sure. And so can Mexican companies.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:34 PM
Dec 2015

They just have to do some amount of "production" in the US. Like applying "Produced in the USA" labels.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. Who do they work for again?
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:01 AM
Dec 2015

It certainly isn't the highest bidder.

Oh well. We the People pick up the tab for everything.

Thank you, sir. May I have another?

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
22. mine are primarily us grown
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:49 AM
Dec 2015

i will also buy from other countries, including mexico, israel, and canada. organic fruit and veggies come from many countries.

farmers markets are locally grown, or they will tell you where they got it

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
34. Good point; most food borne illnesses are from vegetables
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:47 PM
Dec 2015

Although the meat ons seem to get more press

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
47. Yes.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:13 PM
Dec 2015

...but only because I only buy from a local-growth coop. If it won't grow locally in CT at this time of year, I haven't got it unless I already had it and laid it in the larder for the winter.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
17. As long as the same safety standards are enforced, I don't mind eating Canadian-made food.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:26 AM
Dec 2015

I hope and expect that Canadians will treat our products the same way - not no standards or low standards but high standards applied across the board regardless of what state or country is the source.

GoCubsGo

(32,093 posts)
46. Same here.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:05 PM
Dec 2015

But, I just worry about my cat's food. I don't eat that much meat, but the cat can't live without it. I don't want to risk feeding her some shit from China that might kill her. Some of the canned food I give her comes from Canada. I don't have a problem with that. I figure they're as good, if not better than here, even with the origin labels.

As for beef and pork, if I don't know where it comes from, I just won't buy it. Just like I pass on the Chinese frozen fish.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
18. I'm thankful I have a local rancher that sells grassfed meat.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:36 AM
Dec 2015

I get mine at a local Farmers Market here in Austin.

FYI

Richardson's Farms

http://richardsonfarms.com/

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
23. and just think, the tpp hasn't even kicked in yet
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:50 AM
Dec 2015

we will be lucky to recognize the pasty gray gruel we will all have to eat under the new world order

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
41. Am I the only one who hears that giant sucking sound once again?
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:58 PM
Dec 2015

Thanks, Bill Clinton and the DLC!

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
48. That's the boggle of it.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:17 PM
Dec 2015

Oppose this?
Support Hillary?

I don't see how people can not see the logical disconnect.

This may have been a GOP bill but it's the bastard baby of Bill's bloody FTA (NAFTA) and the current FTA (TPP) that I don't believe Hillary when she says she's not a supporter of it.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
42. Buy from reputable local sources, not Walmart or Kroger
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:26 PM
Dec 2015

It was them who wanted this and who are racing to the bottom of the quality and price continuum...

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
49. Just in time. TPP is going to make it so that food and drug
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:18 PM
Dec 2015

laws will no longer apply to imported foods. We are going to pay for this in a lot of ways.

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