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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:16 AM Dec 2015

Why is there not more discussion about Trump's wife?

I'm not generally a fan of attacking potential presidential spouses, but in this case, it's legit to ask some questions.

Melania Trump was born in what is now Slovenia in 1970, so she spent the first 16+ years of her life in communist Yugoslavia.

She became a naturalized citizen in 2006.

I'm not immigrant-bashing or suggesting she's disloyal here, but do we really want a foreigner living in the White House?

This makes me uncomfortable, and I'm surprised it's not more of an issue.

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Why is there not more discussion about Trump's wife? (Original Post) XemaSab Dec 2015 OP
or the other two angryvet Dec 2015 #1
Xenophobic crap. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #2
Right. And she would be the first First lady I have naked jaysunb Dec 2015 #5
Oh, you weren't on the list for the others? nt Jerry442 Dec 2015 #52
Wow. Really? She's a "foreigner"? onenote Dec 2015 #3
Might want to make it clearer that this is satire oberliner Dec 2015 #4
What? Texasgal Dec 2015 #6
actually, you are immigrant-bashing AND suggesting she's disloyal Skittles Dec 2015 #7
I am more concerned that her nude photos, combined with his vulgar, aggressive, tblue37 Dec 2015 #8
The only bad nude photos are when the subject looks bad LittleBlue Dec 2015 #57
flotus enid602 Dec 2015 #9
Ahh. Another birther. Fuck off. madinmaryland Dec 2015 #10
I'm more fixated on the fact that she's young enough to be his daughter. BlueStater Dec 2015 #11
This, especially after he said he wanted to have sex with his daughter. YARG MillennialDem Dec 2015 #24
I wouldn't even care if she wasn't a citizen. But, as you say, she is. WillowTree Dec 2015 #12
Me ! but I wonder about a lot on these boards Person 2713 Dec 2015 #16
If OP is serious it certainly doesn't. draa Dec 2015 #29
Do we really want a foreigner living in the White House? WTF is wrong with you? CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #13
What about John Kerry's wife? Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #14
Yes she was 25 when she came to the US to work @the UN Person 2713 Dec 2015 #17
So? What's your point? Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #19
That one of our(Dem) candidates had a wife who immigrated as an adult thus to the OP if Person 2713 Dec 2015 #46
there is no comparison, Teresa is a wonderful, accomplished woman karynnj Dec 2015 #63
And a.......'foreigner'!!! OMG!!!! WillowTree Dec 2015 #21
wtf? 840high Dec 2015 #15
You've got to be kidding, right? davekriss Dec 2015 #18
Apparently, they are not kidding. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #28
Could it be bad satire? draa Dec 2015 #31
I highly doubt it. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #32
Damn, if so they need the hammer. draa Dec 2015 #34
that's what I am wondering - could this be an attempt at irony that fell flat? Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #39
Xema, just leave the wife out. She is not running and no need to akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #20
Because I don't give a fuck who his wife is tkmorris Dec 2015 #22
Agree with you 100%. Why was this even an op? akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #23
2 out of 3 of Trumps wives were immigrants. safeinOhio Dec 2015 #25
Just saying! JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #37
+2000 nomorenomore08 Dec 2015 #42
KABOOM!!! Lostnote Dec 2015 #58
Hah! Egnever Dec 2015 #59
There is another woman, Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #26
I, for one, always find stories of domestic abuse funny. AngryAmish Dec 2015 #49
You're not "immigrant bashing"?? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #27
... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2015 #30
The results........ davidpdx Dec 2015 #33
Speaking as the daughter of one of them dirty furreners guess what I think of this "issue"? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #35
Jury results: mr blur Dec 2015 #38
Thank you. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #41
ALERTING FOR IMPLIED NUDITY!!!!!! opiate69 Dec 2015 #50
Seriously? Sometime alerted on that? Thank you 6 jurors for your sense uppityperson Dec 2015 #47
Louisa Catherine Johnson Adams (February 12, 1775 – May 15, 1852), wife of John Quincy Adams, Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #36
To the right wingers who support him it should be treestar Dec 2015 #40
Xenophobic. Nt NCTraveler Dec 2015 #43
Weird if this were an issue get the red out Dec 2015 #44
Your post makes me uncomfortable. bigwillq Dec 2015 #45
Probably because there is little need to sling mud at a pig wallowing in the sty. bluedigger Dec 2015 #48
According the the right, we already have a foreigner living in the White House. Vinca Dec 2015 #51
"do we really want a foreigner living in the White House?" jberryhill Dec 2015 #53
Here's the dilemma: Jerry442 Dec 2015 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author LittleBlue Dec 2015 #55
Yes you are LittleBlue Dec 2015 #56
Hate to break it to you but . . . MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #60
"but do we really want a foreigner living in the White House?" KamaAina Dec 2015 #61
It would open the door to more discussion about Hillary's husband? Karmadillo Dec 2015 #62

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
2. Xenophobic crap.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:22 AM
Dec 2015

Madeleine Albright was a Czechoslovak, born in Prague. Were you "uncomfortable" about her serving as US Secretary of State?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright

There are about ten million reasons to hate and criticize Trump. His foreign-born wife is not one of them.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Might want to make it clearer that this is satire
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:25 AM
Dec 2015

First few respondents don't seem to be getting it.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
7. actually, you are immigrant-bashing AND suggesting she's disloyal
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:45 AM
Dec 2015

if this is satire you need to make it more clear

tblue37

(65,409 posts)
8. I am more concerned that her nude photos, combined with his vulgar, aggressive,
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 12:52 AM
Dec 2015

racist and xenophobic language, will damage the image and reputation of the US. It's a matter of decorum.

Also, she never smiles. I think she is miserable in her marriage.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
57. The only bad nude photos are when the subject looks bad
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 02:33 PM
Dec 2015

*Googles*

Yeah she won't take shit for that

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
11. I'm more fixated on the fact that she's young enough to be his daughter.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:56 AM
Dec 2015

That grosses me out. I can't possibly (and don't want to) imagine that disgusting, narcissistic old coot and his centerfold wife being in the White House. What an absolute nightmare.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
12. I wouldn't even care if she wasn't a citizen. But, as you say, she is.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:56 AM
Dec 2015

That makes her not a foreigner.

Oh, and the President's wife is not in line for the presidency.......or any other office, for that matter.

Wondering if anyone else around here thinks that this kind of xenophobic nonsense belongs on a progressive, democratic bulletin board. And what would it say about progressive democrats if it did?

draa

(975 posts)
29. If OP is serious it certainly doesn't.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:29 AM
Dec 2015

I'm beginning to think it's a poor attempt at satire. Or I hope it is. With 59k+ comments on DU it almost has to be.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
14. What about John Kerry's wife?
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 02:03 AM
Dec 2015

If Kerry had won that election, his wife would have been the first African-American first lady.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
46. That one of our(Dem) candidates had a wife who immigrated as an adult thus to the OP if
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:36 PM
Dec 2015

they think about it ,she may be a suspicious furner who maybe didn't belong in the WH much like Mrs Trump
I guess my additional comment was because some xeno types sometimes give a pass if one is foreign born but raised in the US but not to adults immigrating .
However I will add now that you asked for a reply that also the xeno often factor in color and beliefs to their phobic equation of which citizens belong where and at what age if any, they will give a pass to foreign born.
The OP is about a republican candidate and just as selective as Trump regarding naturalized citizenship

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
63. there is no comparison, Teresa is a wonderful, accomplished woman
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 03:55 PM
Dec 2015

Who did a huge amount as a philanthropist to further green building in Pittsburg, making the former steel town the greenest city in the US. In fact, it was her work on the environment that led GHWB to name her as a non government US representative to the RIO climate change conference. .... where she met John Kerry.

Teresa and Kerry then joined with others to lead an effort on insuring that colleges taught about sustainability in architecture and other fields. Teresa, with her foundation also did a huge amount of work on women's health and things like women's pensions.

From the small amount I read Trimp's current wife is simply noted for her looks - being beautiful may be the only thing they have in common.

draa

(975 posts)
31. Could it be bad satire?
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:32 AM
Dec 2015

They have 59k+ comments on DU. I doubt they could last that long if they believe what's written.

At least I hope it is because WOW.

draa

(975 posts)
34. Damn, if so they need the hammer.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:45 AM
Dec 2015

Hahaha, maybe the spouse is drunk blogging while Xema is away. At least that would explain a lot for me.

I just can't see someone making it that far being the way they seem in that post. They've been here for 11 years. Unless Skinner has somehow missed it that is (which is possible I guess). Thanks.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
22. Because I don't give a fuck who his wife is
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 04:27 AM
Dec 2015

HE is an asshole, and for me that is all I need to know. Tarring his wife in such a questionable fashion is not only distasteful, it's unnecessary.

safeinOhio

(32,690 posts)
25. 2 out of 3 of Trumps wives were immigrants.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:06 AM
Dec 2015

All that proves is that we need immigrants to fill the jobs Americans are unwilling to do.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
26. There is another woman,
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:07 AM
Dec 2015

who republicans think is a "foreigner" who bothers me more than Trump's current wife, and that is Huma Abedin. I do not care that she was raised in Saudi Arabia. What bothers me a little is her judgement. She chose to get married to Anthony Weiner and to have a child with him.

(As a "joke", my brother will sometimes introduce my wife to people new to her as my "current" wife. She actually does not care when he does this. She kicks him in the shin with a hard shoe. I have told her I will beat the crap out of him the next time he does this. She insists that I stay out of it. I wonder if I should be worried about this?) P.S. My brother is an asshole and everyone agrees on that, even his own wife.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
49. I, for one, always find stories of domestic abuse funny.
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:51 PM
Dec 2015

Keep on keeping on with your wonderful family.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
33. The results........
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:41 AM
Dec 2015

On Wed Dec 23, 2015, 06:25 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Why is there not more discussion about Trump's wife?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027469160

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Xenophobic post, please hide it!

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Dec 23, 2015, 06:40 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Xenophobic post, please hide it!"

Seriously? Seems like sarcasm to me. And it's funny, to boot.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alert fiends are at it again. I see nothing xenophobic about this other than the fact that Trump is xenophobic.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: While the DUer is wrong about Melaina Trump (if she is a naturalized citizen, she would not be a foreigner). He/she is expressing an opinion (with the wrong assumption). I'm willing to give him/her the benefit of the doubt.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
35. Speaking as the daughter of one of them dirty furreners guess what I think of this "issue"?
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:51 AM
Dec 2015

My mother was born in one of those communist countries, and even though she never officially became a citizen she was a better American than you because she understood what this means:



 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
38. Jury results:
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 06:22 AM
Dec 2015

Speaking as the daughter of one of them dirty furreners guess what I think of this "issue"?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7469437

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Declaring someone "a better American than you" is over the top. I share Beam me up Scottie's disagreement with the OP, but it is not appropriate to say someone is not a good American because they write something one disagrees with.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Dec 23, 2015, 10:15 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerting on this post?!? Wow.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: beam me up scottie was responding to an extremely unpleasant OP and her response was justified and reasonable. It's posts like the OP that make DU suck and alerts like this don't improve the situation.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I am so tired of these alerts

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
36. Louisa Catherine Johnson Adams (February 12, 1775 – May 15, 1852), wife of John Quincy Adams,
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:59 AM
Dec 2015

was First Lady of the United States from 1825 to 1829. She is the only First Lady born outside of the United States.



First Lady of the United States

In office
March 4, 1825 – March 4, 1829

Preceded by
Elizabeth Monroe

Succeeded by
Emily Donelson

Personal details


Born
February 12, 1775
London, England

Died
May 15, 1852 (aged 77)
Washington, D.C.

Spouse(s)
John Quincy Adams
(1797-1848; his death)

Children
George Washington Adams
John Adams II
Charles Francis Adams
Louisa Catherine Adams

Occupation
First Lady of the United States

Religion
Unitarian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisa_Adams



treestar

(82,383 posts)
40. To the right wingers who support him it should be
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 06:23 AM
Dec 2015

After all their crap about President Obama for the past 8 years.

But then they are hypocrites. That is what Republicans are.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
54. Here's the dilemma:
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 02:12 PM
Dec 2015

Imagine in a hard-fought no-holds-barred election campaign with major stakes, you have the opportunity to launch a meme that has the potential of doing real harm to the opponent, one which he or she would have no compunctions against sending against your candidate, but...is skeevy as hell.

Would you do it? Would you have done it against Dubya? And if you could have, but didn't, wouldn't you lie awake nights thinking about it now?

Response to XemaSab (Original post)

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
56. Yes you are
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 02:29 PM
Dec 2015
I'm not immigrant-bashing or suggesting she's disloyal here, but do we really want a foreigner living in the White House?

Same sentence too

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
60. Hate to break it to you but . . .
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 02:52 PM
Dec 2015

George Washington and a number of our original presidents were technically born as English citizens.

They seemed to work out OK.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
61. "but do we really want a foreigner living in the White House?"
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 03:00 PM
Dec 2015

Well, we did in 2004: Teresa Heinz Kerry.

The real question is why a pinata man who is married to an immigrant rails so hard against immigrants.

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