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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHoly Jesus..Gas leak in Southern Cali called
the worst environmental crisis since BP..
I live 20 miles away along with millions of others...
Any of you scientific kind of guys out there have any input?
http://www.healthfreedoms.org/unstoppable-california-gas-leak-being-called-worst-catastrophe-since-bp-spill/
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)This was known when they first started to develop it back in the late 60's.
grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)I'm curious when you first learned of the leak, and the ramifications. I wonder if the media has been giving this the attention it deserves. Media blackout, perhaps?
I only learned of it 3 days ago, through a link posted on another site.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Local news covered it...but I just discovered how bad it is when I came across this piece about an hr ago..
Initech
(100,100 posts)I'd take with a huge grain of salt - I live in California and have not heard anything about this.
grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)And I trust her completely.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/nasa-to-survey-belching--toxic-gas-leak-589123139589
Initech
(100,100 posts)KT2000
(20,586 posts)for weeks now. She also reports she is about the only one in news media who cares about it.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)it TV is not interested. But if Rachel is on it then there is real science behind it.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Theres been word about this for awhile..but very few details..
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Not a hard hitting detail oriented piece, it's a piece about how it's disrupting people's christmas. I don't know how much they've covered this as I ran across this article today after hearing about this and searching for Porter Ranch because I couldn't remember where it was.
SoCal Gas expects to have the leak fixed in three to four months. Until then, the company is paying to relocate and house residents and pets sickened by fumes that health officials and independent experts say can cause headache, nosebleed, nausea and other short-term ailments but pose no long-term health risks.
During Rabadi's stop at her house, she also gathered up important documents and family photos, fearful that burglars will see vacant neighborhoods as an opportunity. She took everything to the home of relatives she and her husband, Peter, 28, have moved in with, about 10 miles away.
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Despite repeated assurances that the fumes pose no serious health risks, many residents are skeptical and say they have reason not to trust SoCal Gas. The company's formal summary of tests taken Nov. 12 in the community said that levels of hazardous sulfur compounds were "intermittent, very low" and below state standards.
That isn't true. The tests had found hydrogen sulfide levels of 183 parts per billion six times the state standard for a chemical that can be poisonous.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)But was living in Hutchinson kansas when a couple homes and a store blew up all at once because of a leaking underground gas storage like 5 miles away.
http://www.geotimes.org/oct01/feature_kansas.html
It's no joke...and can travel for miles through natural crevices...
jwirr
(39,215 posts)and then settled down again a flames started shutting out of the windows.
That was from natural gas though - the kind that heats our homes. It is my understanding that this threat is from methane gas which is the gas that often causes explosions in underground mines. It is also very much a part of CO2 pollution.
Gas is often an unseen enemy.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)What Went Wrong at Porter Ranch?
http://www.laweekly.com/news/what-went-wrong-at-porter-ranch-6405804
mike_c
(36,281 posts)I've only seen these recent reports, but apparently the methane output is sufficient to seriously threaten state carbon footprint targets. It's just firehousing carbon into the atmosphere.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,301 posts)(and still own) a house about ten miles away.
Porter Ranch has always been trouble. First they NIMBYed their way out of letting Winnetka connect to the 118, and then having fires that were hard to control because they kept putting flammable roofs into an area that had bad freeway access (because they wouldn't let Winnetka connect to the 118).
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Porter Ranch is a 30-year-old master-planned community of 30,000 people, schools, businesses, parks and hiking trails tucked beneath the Santa Susana Mountains at the northwestern tip of the San Fernando Valley. It has survived wildfires, hurricane-force winds and a massive earthquake, but none of those matches the body blow dealt by the leak.
Ben Kaczor, who moved to Porter Ranch almost exactly 30 years ago, is hearing stories about declining property values and homes falling out of escrow and it is changing his future. Kaczor is vice president of a women's apparel company and, at 62, he planned to take early retirement.
"A great portion of my retirement income was going to come from the equity in my home," he said. "But now, I'm not sure. No one can guarantee that another well won't blow, or a third, and we'll have to do this all over again."
Two weeks ago he was supposed to give the company's end-of-the-year speech at a downtown restaurant. Instead, he said he spent the day in bed with headaches and a nosebleed.
http://www.latimes.com/science/la-me-porter-ranch-christmas-20151225-story.html
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)To basically cover their asses for several previous leaks. I'm truly ashamed.
Hekate
(90,787 posts)...which is a very large state with a very large population.
I live 100 or so miles away, but that is a helluva statistic.