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jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
1. Porter Ranch has always been a danger.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:40 PM
Dec 2015

This was known when they first started to develop it back in the late 60's.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
2. The leak has been ongoing since October.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:46 PM
Dec 2015

I'm curious when you first learned of the leak, and the ramifications. I wonder if the media has been giving this the attention it deserves. Media blackout, perhaps?
I only learned of it 3 days ago, through a link posted on another site.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
4. first heard about this 2 weeks days ago..
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:49 PM
Dec 2015

Local news covered it...but I just discovered how bad it is when I came across this piece about an hr ago..

Initech

(100,100 posts)
3. Is this one of those obnoxious Taboola links?
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:46 PM
Dec 2015

I'd take with a huge grain of salt - I live in California and have not heard anything about this.

KT2000

(20,586 posts)
7. Rachel has been reporting on it
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:49 PM
Dec 2015

for weeks now. She also reports she is about the only one in news media who cares about it.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. This gas is basically invisible. Let's face it if you cannot see
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:34 PM
Dec 2015

it TV is not interested. But if Rachel is on it then there is real science behind it.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
10. L.A. Times has a story on it yesterday:
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:55 PM
Dec 2015

Not a hard hitting detail oriented piece, it's a piece about how it's disrupting people's christmas. I don't know how much they've covered this as I ran across this article today after hearing about this and searching for Porter Ranch because I couldn't remember where it was.

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-me-porter-ranch-christmas-20151225-story.html

SoCal Gas expects to have the leak fixed in three to four months. Until then, the company is paying to relocate and house residents and pets sickened by fumes that health officials and independent experts say can cause headache, nosebleed, nausea and other short-term ailments but pose no long-term health risks.

During Rabadi's stop at her house, she also gathered up important documents and family photos, fearful that burglars will see vacant neighborhoods as an opportunity. She took everything to the home of relatives she and her husband, Peter, 28, have moved in with, about 10 miles away.
...
Despite repeated assurances that the fumes pose no serious health risks, many residents are skeptical and say they have reason not to trust SoCal Gas. The company's formal summary of tests taken Nov. 12 in the community said that levels of hazardous sulfur compounds were "intermittent, very low" and below state standards.

That isn't true. The tests had found hydrogen sulfide levels of 183 parts per billion — six times the state standard for a chemical that can be poisonous.
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
5. Not scientific
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:49 PM
Dec 2015

But was living in Hutchinson kansas when a couple homes and a store blew up all at once because of a leaking underground gas storage like 5 miles away.


http://www.geotimes.org/oct01/feature_kansas.html

It's no joke...and can travel for miles through natural crevices...

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. Yeah, I was driving past a house when the roof just lifted off
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:38 PM
Dec 2015

and then settled down again a flames started shutting out of the windows.

That was from natural gas though - the kind that heats our homes. It is my understanding that this threat is from methane gas which is the gas that often causes explosions in underground mines. It is also very much a part of CO2 pollution.

Gas is often an unseen enemy.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
15. methane is a greenhouse gas many times more powerful than CO2....
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:46 PM
Dec 2015

I've only seen these recent reports, but apparently the methane output is sufficient to seriously threaten state carbon footprint targets. It's just firehousing carbon into the atmosphere.

MurrayDelph

(5,301 posts)
20. I used to live
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 06:33 PM
Dec 2015

(and still own) a house about ten miles away.

Porter Ranch has always been trouble. First they NIMBYed their way out of letting Winnetka connect to the 118, and then having fires that were hard to control because they kept putting flammable roofs into an area that had bad freeway access (because they wouldn't let Winnetka connect to the 118).

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
17. In Porter Ranch, ongoing gas leak seeps the joy out of Christmas
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:50 PM
Dec 2015

Porter Ranch is a 30-year-old master-planned community of 30,000 people, schools, businesses, parks and hiking trails tucked beneath the Santa Susana Mountains at the northwestern tip of the San Fernando Valley. It has survived wildfires, hurricane-force winds and a massive earthquake, but none of those matches the body blow dealt by the leak.

Ben Kaczor, who moved to Porter Ranch almost exactly 30 years ago, is hearing stories about declining property values and homes falling out of escrow — and it is changing his future. Kaczor is vice president of a women's apparel company and, at 62, he planned to take early retirement.

"A great portion of my retirement income was going to come from the equity in my home," he said. "But now, I'm not sure. No one can guarantee that another well won't blow, or a third, and we'll have to do this all over again."

Two weeks ago he was supposed to give the company's end-of-the-year speech at a downtown restaurant. Instead, he said he spent the day in bed with headaches and a nosebleed.

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-me-porter-ranch-christmas-20151225-story.html

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
18. A very close relative of mine was hired by the gas compaby
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:51 PM
Dec 2015

To basically cover their asses for several previous leaks. I'm truly ashamed.

Hekate

(90,787 posts)
19. Rachel said it is currently responsible for fully 25% of methane in California...
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:55 PM
Dec 2015

...which is a very large state with a very large population.

I live 100 or so miles away, but that is a helluva statistic.

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