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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts) Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:36 PM Dec 2015

Even If We Invaded Iraq Again/Went Into Syria Who Would We Give It To?

I am sure that US troops could defeat ISIS and take back all the territory they hold. There is no way they could actually stop us in the long run. Unlike the Taliban they have few places to hide as an entity. The trouble is once the territory is secured again if it ever could be from other entities there, who would we give the place to? Who could form a government that works?

Of course forces already there do not want us there. So sending US troops in in force is not viable.

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Even If We Invaded Iraq Again/Went Into Syria Who Would We Give It To? (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Dec 2015 OP

When I was in Syria, all the sectarian groups actually got along quite well... brooklynite Dec 2015 #1

"..who would we give it to?" elias49 Dec 2015 #2

Upon Careful Examination It's Amazing How Sytematically We Took Country From Indians. TheMastersNemesis Dec 2015 #3

the whole thing seems to be about pipelines GreatGazoo Dec 2015 #4

The good guys gratuitous Dec 2015 #5

They will do what AQ did, morph into v2.0 - ISIS with Saudi money. AQ v3.0 leveymg Dec 2015 #6

brooklynite

(94,713 posts)

1. When I was in Syria, all the sectarian groups actually got along quite well...

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:43 PM

Dec 2015

...it wasn't as segregated as Iraq or Libya.

elias49

(4,259 posts)

2. "..who would we give it to?"

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:49 PM

Dec 2015

That's a problem, since it's not 'ours', but I think you know that.
That's how the US acts, and has since we 'took' the continental United States from Native Americans.
And gave it to ourselves.

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)

3. Upon Careful Examination It's Amazing How Sytematically We Took Country From Indians.

Reply to elias49 (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:51 PM

Dec 2015

I remember my history courses about "manifest destiny". Only in my older age do I realize how much political BS that was. I see how skewed my history courses were 60 years ago.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)

4. the whole thing seems to be about pipelines

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:59 PM

Dec 2015

Ergodan met with Salman today
http://www.voanews.com/content/turkey-erdogan-to-meet-saudi-king-in-riyadh/3122752.html

Maybe this isn't about heavily armed religious zealots carving out a new country. Maybe it is just about extracting and selling oil, again (and gas):
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/08/syria-ultimate-pipelineistan-war/

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)

5. The good guys

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:13 PM

Dec 2015

Duh.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)

6. They will do what AQ did, morph into v2.0 - ISIS with Saudi money. AQ v3.0

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:26 PM

Dec 2015

will just mutate into something even more deadly with bigger weapons and more trained, battle-hardened Sunni shock troops.

The Saudi, Qatari, and Kuwaiti royal families will always get a pass -- and will never be held accountable, even after 9/11 and other mass casualty attacks they financed -- because they own so much corporate stock and real estate in the west. Too big to rendition. After their paramilitary pull off the next outrageous mass murder, we and the equally corrupt British political establishment will simply bomb another Shi'ia country.

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