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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:04 PM May 2012

"Trayvon Martin looks like he's up to no good ..."Thank God Zimmerman didn't have drones/ Will Bunch

Tuesday, May 29, 2012
If you're "probably up to no good," President Obama wants to kill you
Posted by Will Bunch


Quote from NYT investigative article:: "Secret ‘Kill List’ Tests Obama’s Principles" - NYTimes.com

Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.

Counterterrorism officials insist this approach is one of simple logic: people in an area of known terrorist activity, or found with a top Qaeda operative, are probably up to no good. “Al Qaeda is an insular, paranoid organization — innocent neighbors don’t hitchhike rides in the back of trucks headed for the border with guns and bombs,” said one official, who requested anonymity to speak about what is still a classified program.


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This may be the ultimate example of something we've seen a lot in the last three and a half years, which we'll call, "If President Bush did this, liberals would be outraged." For what little it's worth, I'm fairly outraged. I do certainly approve of the raid and killing of Osama bin Laden and believe there was a time when al-Qaeda was stronger and more of a threat that these kind of attacks could be justified with solid intelligence.

But today the harm that's caused by raining death from machines in the sky down onto far too many civilians -- including someone's son, brother, or father who wasn't "up to no good" at all -- vastly outweighs any good. Righteous anger over the killing of civilians creates new terrorists faster than the killing of any old ones. As for the morally indefensible position that any male killed in such an attack is "probably up to no good," isn't the Obama administration saying the EXACT same thing that George Zimmerman said about Trayvon Martin?

Ponder that for a moment.

One more revolting thing is the news that a political adviser, David Axelrod, sat in on some of these meetings at which it was decided who would live and die.

If Karl Rove had done that (which he did, by the way). liberals would have been outraged.

UPDATE: Actually, the similarity with Zimmerman is even greater than I first thought. What he said to the Sanford police dispatcher was that Trayvon Martin "looks like he's up to no good." Thank God Zimmerman didn't have drones, huh?

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/If-youre-probably-up-to-no-good-then-President-Obama-wants-to-kill-you.html

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"Trayvon Martin looks like he's up to no good ..."Thank God Zimmerman didn't have drones/ Will Bunch (Original Post) KoKo May 2012 OP
why thank god? Trayvon's dead regardless- Bluerthanblue May 2012 #1
That is what came to my mind also when I heard this on the news last night. Guilty until proven jwirr May 2012 #2
Analogy is way off grok May 2012 #3
Sheer nonsense. n/t Scurrilous May 2012 #4
In before shitstorm JVS May 2012 #5
Unrec. FSogol May 2012 #6
Just think, you'll soon have 4 more years to be so angry, and bitter. i can't wait. dionysus May 2012 #7
What a bunch of bullshit. Life Long Dem May 2012 #8
Obliviously stupid analogy and an insult to credible arguments regarding the policies in question. phleshdef May 2012 #9
K&R! KoKo Jun 2012 #10

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
2. That is what came to my mind also when I heard this on the news last night. Guilty until proven
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:08 PM
May 2012

innocent or dead.

 

grok

(550 posts)
3. Analogy is way off
Thu May 31, 2012, 05:58 PM
May 2012

Its would match more if the drone followed a suspected terrorist, the suspected terrorist shot a glancing shot at the drone with a pea shooter, and only THEN the drone dropped a bomb on the suspected terrorist.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
8. What a bunch of bullshit.
Thu May 31, 2012, 06:08 PM
May 2012

I suspect your up to no good (not the OP). Do they have a problem with me saying I suspect you of trying to bash Obama over this and drones?

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
9. Obliviously stupid analogy and an insult to credible arguments regarding the policies in question.
Thu May 31, 2012, 06:12 PM
May 2012

Theres too many ways to degrade this author's analogy for the pile of moronic bullshit that it is. I don't think I could fit them all in one post. You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking theres any intellectual value to this utter nonsense.

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