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Perp Walk (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 OP
Good. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #1
poor fella.... shanti Dec 2015 #2
I want the cop who shot Tamir Rice to do the same roguevalley Dec 2015 #10
Same here. bvf Dec 2015 #20
I can hardly wait 2naSalit Dec 2015 #3
One of the very few things I miss about TV. bvf Dec 2015 #9
You can watch it online 2naSalit Dec 2015 #23
Sad Martin Eden Dec 2015 #4
When he was writing and recording that album, and collecting income from it, he was also . . . . Stinky The Clown Dec 2015 #5
Like I said, no winners here Martin Eden Dec 2015 #6
Would have been better if two female cops were escorting him. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #7
I noticed he had a cane with him today. Mr.Bill Dec 2015 #8
Cosby is now claiming he is blind so he couldn't have raped LiberalElite Dec 2015 #13
He admitted his actions in a prior deposition. yardwork Dec 2015 #33
a prop, I'm sure NJCher Dec 2015 #17
I never saw a blind person with a cane like that. LiberalElite Dec 2015 #34
Geez - look at his face... Marie Marie Dec 2015 #11
"I'm a celebrity, loved by millions, dammit!" n/t bvf Dec 2015 #15
he's pretty unhappy NJCher Dec 2015 #16
Perfect picture Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #12
I think he looks defeated, angry and very sad. 7wo7rees Dec 2015 #19
I hope the truth comes out, and he gets the justice he deserves. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #14
to some people NJCher Dec 2015 #18
Hmmm, he never fooled you? Psychic? Nt Logical Dec 2015 #21
You've never used that phrase? bvf Dec 2015 #25
Oh. I thought it really had happened, but yet shrub is still free... madinmaryland Dec 2015 #22
For decades, Cosby portreyed himself as a family man, Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #24
you put the pudding in the handcuffs and then you take me, the Cos, to jail Feeling the Bern Dec 2015 #26
What has struck me about this ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #27
It vastly understates it. I would say his career has morningfog Dec 2015 #28
I have great disdain for perp walks. morningfog Dec 2015 #29
Unlike peasants the rich and famous get to perp walk in their best clothes supported by Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #30
What is it that you mean by "seriously disturbed" HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #31
The middle, or perhaps something other. morningfog Dec 2015 #32
So if it is an illness, you must have one in mind. HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #35
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
20. Same here.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 12:54 AM
Dec 2015

But our culture says that's not to be.

You need People Magazine-level exposure for anyone's voice to matter, sadly. Hoping that that will someday change.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
9. One of the very few things I miss about TV.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:13 PM
Dec 2015

But I thought the exact same thing when I heard the news.

I've always thought Cosby was an asshole, anyway.



2naSalit

(86,634 posts)
23. You can watch it online
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:03 AM
Dec 2015

You just have to watch each show a day later because Comedy Central re-airs the show from the previous night on the following day.

http://www.cc.com/shows/the-nightly-show

I'm sure it will be in one of the first shows he does next week.

I haven't had a teevee for decades, love the interwebs.


Martin Eden

(12,869 posts)
4. Sad
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 09:52 PM
Dec 2015

Justice needs to be served, but there are no winners here.

The first record I ever bought (circa 10 years old) was Bill Cosby's Why Is There Air?.

Stinky The Clown

(67,800 posts)
5. When he was writing and recording that album, and collecting income from it, he was also . . . .
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:16 PM
Dec 2015

. . . . . drugging and raping women.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
13. Cosby is now claiming he is blind so he couldn't have raped
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:22 PM
Dec 2015
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bill-cosby-claims-blind-court-7081273

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Bill Cosby has reportedly claimed he is "legally and functionally blind" in court documents from his defamation lawsuit.

The comedian is suing Beverly Johnson after she accused him of drugging her - making her the eighth accuser he has filed suit against this month - and he admitted he has suffered from vision problems as a result of glaucoma.

It is also said that Cosby - who mentioned his condition in his 14-page filed against the model in Los Angeles County Superior Court last week - is battling keratoconus, which alters the shape of the corneas.
snip

yardwork

(61,622 posts)
33. He admitted his actions in a prior deposition.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 10:46 AM
Dec 2015

He doesn't have much of a defense at this point. He admitted drugging this particular woman and assaulting her.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
11. Geez - look at his face...
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:19 PM
Dec 2015

Wonder what he is thinking? I would bet there is not an ounce of remorse or accountability in that thought train. May justice finally be served for at least one of this predator's victims and may the rest of them feel some amount of vindication for having their stories been ignored for years.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
14. I hope the truth comes out, and he gets the justice he deserves.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:41 PM
Dec 2015

I can never be happy about this though.

He represented so much. He was so admired. He was such a larger than life figure in a time when one was desperately needed.

From the lessons of Fat Albert, to the role model and life lessons in the Cosby show..

there's no defense for what he's done. He deserves what the justice gives him, but it still breaks my heart.

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
18. to some people
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 12:10 AM
Dec 2015

But he never fooled me. I was always suspicious of him, and I knew there was something wrong with him.

As far as "happy," I don't think anyone's out saying they're happy. If they are, what they're more likely trying to say is that they have some measure of satisfaction that a little justice might prevail. In this case, it is way, way too late, and had anyone given credence to the stories from some of the women, he wouldn't have been able to continue his career as a rapist for as long as he did. Usually, justice delayed is justice denied. As old as he is, he will never serve the sentence he deserves.

I have read many of the news stories, including the ones in New York Magazine, and there is no doubt in my mind that there is something mentally wrong with him.


Cher

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
25. You've never used that phrase?
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:32 AM
Dec 2015

It's pretty common, and doesn't in the least presume any psychic ability--only common sense and maybe a better-than-average bullshit meter.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
24. For decades, Cosby portreyed himself as a family man,
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:19 AM
Dec 2015

especialliy in his 80s television program.

He got an honorary doctorate in education, mostly because of his 'family values' views.

I saw him in person in the 80s. It was a convention. He sat on a chair on the stage smoking a cigar while he sid his routine. It was not anything I had not heard him do before.

He is a pig, and the only reason he has gotten away with his actions for this long is because of his fame and power. His victims were afraid to report him.

He is too old to get the punishment he deserves. I hope his more recent victims are able to drain his bank account. Whatever wife he may currently have deserves a settlement.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
27. What has struck me about this ...
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:15 AM
Dec 2015

... is news reports that say Cosby's career has been "tarnished" by these accusations.

Wouldn't the more appropriate description be that his career has been "utterly destroyed, annihilated, blown to bits, nuked, stomped-out, relegated to the dustbin of history, demolished beyond all recognition," etc.?

One's career is "tarnished" by addiction to drugs/alcohol, bankruptcy, a string of messy divorces, or a reputation for being difficult to work with.

Given the accusations and the number of accusers, I think Mr. Cosby's career passed the "tarnished" stage a long time ago.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
29. I have great disdain for perp walks.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 09:07 AM
Dec 2015

Gawking humiliation to start the criminal process is offensive to the concept of innocent until proven guilty.

The mockery of the criminal justice system is on further display here in that these charges were filed about a month before the statute of limitations expired.

Having said all that, if a fraction of the allegations made against him over the past year are true, he was a seriously disturbed sexual predator who raped as routine. Most of the allegations are quite old, hence the lack of charges. I have to wonder whether he changed. He certainly hasn't owned up publicly and he has sued some of the alleged victims for defamation, suggesting a lack of remorse. However, is the absence of recent allegations due to some rehabilitation? Has he been treated for his problem? Or is it due to something else, such as a loss of sexual interest or ability?

It's a sad and interesting case and a tragedy for all the women he had inflicted lasting harm.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
30. Unlike peasants the rich and famous get to perp walk in their best clothes supported by
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 09:57 AM
Dec 2015

the best lawyers money can buy, they get to perp walk in style to the courtroom where they can easily and immediately post bail, and then after a short bit of 'processing' they get to perp walk right out again, in style, and back to the comfort of their gated guarded homes.

Fuck 'em.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
31. What is it that you mean by "seriously disturbed"
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 10:08 AM
Dec 2015

Are you saying his orientation to the world was seriously deviant/criminal

or

are you saying his serious disturbance is a symptom of illness?

or

something else, perhaps multiple other things?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
32. The middle, or perhaps something other.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 10:42 AM
Dec 2015

If the allegations are partly or mostly true, it seems to be a symptom of illness.

It could be that he was just a serial rapist who would not take no for an answer, just dominating women who denied his advances. He used his position of fame and power to do it.

But, it seems it was not just that, but also a sexual perversion, getting off on sex with sedated or unconscious women.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
35. So if it is an illness, you must have one in mind.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 11:38 PM
Dec 2015

I could speculate that you are thinking about a sexual paraphilia such as somnophilia. But you may be thinking of something else entirely.

Generally speaking all the paraphiliae are 'deviant' in as much as their diagnoses requires them to be objectively 'non-normophilic' sexual encounters. Moreover, like all sexual encounters, it must be recognized that any paraphilic sexual encounter would be considered sexual assault when it involves persons who do not-consent.

The questions that arise are whether a paraphilia would be the basis for an insanity defense based on some 'irresistible urge', or whether the the root of the problem should more properly be seen in a person having adopted attitudes that even with awareness of wrong-doing nonetheless lead planning and action to achieve an anti-social objective.

Of course, there's no reason to believe that having a paraphilia and commiting anti-social acts must be mutually exclusive.

However research results have argued that psychiatric symptoms, per se, are only weakly correlated to criminal behavior, (http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/lhb-0000075.pdf). The conclusions of that study, and an APA editorial based on that research finding, suggest that rather than looking at the symptoms of mental illness for causation of criminal behavior, the motive for criminal behavior is better sought in factors leading to antisocial orientation.



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