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(115,706 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)not!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)But our culture says that's not to be.
You need People Magazine-level exposure for anyone's voice to matter, sadly. Hoping that that will someday change.
2naSalit
(86,634 posts)for The Nightly Show to come back next week... Wilmore is going to be all over this.
bvf
(6,604 posts)But I thought the exact same thing when I heard the news.
I've always thought Cosby was an asshole, anyway.
2naSalit
(86,634 posts)You just have to watch each show a day later because Comedy Central re-airs the show from the previous night on the following day.
http://www.cc.com/shows/the-nightly-show
I'm sure it will be in one of the first shows he does next week.
I haven't had a teevee for decades, love the interwebs.
Martin Eden
(12,869 posts)Justice needs to be served, but there are no winners here.
The first record I ever bought (circa 10 years old) was Bill Cosby's Why Is There Air?.
Stinky The Clown
(67,800 posts). . . . . drugging and raping women.
Martin Eden
(12,869 posts)Someone I admired proved beneath contempt.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,294 posts)By the time the trial begins I bet he will be in a wheelchair.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)snip
Bill Cosby has reportedly claimed he is "legally and functionally blind" in court documents from his defamation lawsuit.
The comedian is suing Beverly Johnson after she accused him of drugging her - making her the eighth accuser he has filed suit against this month - and he admitted he has suffered from vision problems as a result of glaucoma.
It is also said that Cosby - who mentioned his condition in his 14-page filed against the model in Los Angeles County Superior Court last week - is battling keratoconus, which alters the shape of the corneas.
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yardwork
(61,622 posts)He doesn't have much of a defense at this point. He admitted drugging this particular woman and assaulting her.
NJCher
(35,675 posts)He didn't need it: he had two escorts on either side.
Cher
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)It also looks kind of flimsy.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Wonder what he is thinking? I would bet there is not an ounce of remorse or accountability in that thought train. May justice finally be served for at least one of this predator's victims and may the rest of them feel some amount of vindication for having their stories been ignored for years.
bvf
(6,604 posts)NJCher
(35,675 posts)When I saw it, I thought, "What a frownie "
Cher
Omaha Steve
(99,645 posts)K&R!
OS
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Such a sorry end.....
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)I can never be happy about this though.
He represented so much. He was so admired. He was such a larger than life figure in a time when one was desperately needed.
From the lessons of Fat Albert, to the role model and life lessons in the Cosby show..
there's no defense for what he's done. He deserves what the justice gives him, but it still breaks my heart.
NJCher
(35,675 posts)But he never fooled me. I was always suspicious of him, and I knew there was something wrong with him.
As far as "happy," I don't think anyone's out saying they're happy. If they are, what they're more likely trying to say is that they have some measure of satisfaction that a little justice might prevail. In this case, it is way, way too late, and had anyone given credence to the stories from some of the women, he wouldn't have been able to continue his career as a rapist for as long as he did. Usually, justice delayed is justice denied. As old as he is, he will never serve the sentence he deserves.
I have read many of the news stories, including the ones in New York Magazine, and there is no doubt in my mind that there is something mentally wrong with him.
Cher
Logical
(22,457 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)It's pretty common, and doesn't in the least presume any psychic ability--only common sense and maybe a better-than-average bullshit meter.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)especialliy in his 80s television program.
He got an honorary doctorate in education, mostly because of his 'family values' views.
I saw him in person in the 80s. It was a convention. He sat on a chair on the stage smoking a cigar while he sid his routine. It was not anything I had not heard him do before.
He is a pig, and the only reason he has gotten away with his actions for this long is because of his fame and power. His victims were afraid to report him.
He is too old to get the punishment he deserves. I hope his more recent victims are able to drain his bank account. Whatever wife he may currently have deserves a settlement.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)... is news reports that say Cosby's career has been "tarnished" by these accusations.
Wouldn't the more appropriate description be that his career has been "utterly destroyed, annihilated, blown to bits, nuked, stomped-out, relegated to the dustbin of history, demolished beyond all recognition," etc.?
One's career is "tarnished" by addiction to drugs/alcohol, bankruptcy, a string of messy divorces, or a reputation for being difficult to work with.
Given the accusations and the number of accusers, I think Mr. Cosby's career passed the "tarnished" stage a long time ago.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)rusted away to an unrecognizable pile.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Gawking humiliation to start the criminal process is offensive to the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
The mockery of the criminal justice system is on further display here in that these charges were filed about a month before the statute of limitations expired.
Having said all that, if a fraction of the allegations made against him over the past year are true, he was a seriously disturbed sexual predator who raped as routine. Most of the allegations are quite old, hence the lack of charges. I have to wonder whether he changed. He certainly hasn't owned up publicly and he has sued some of the alleged victims for defamation, suggesting a lack of remorse. However, is the absence of recent allegations due to some rehabilitation? Has he been treated for his problem? Or is it due to something else, such as a loss of sexual interest or ability?
It's a sad and interesting case and a tragedy for all the women he had inflicted lasting harm.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)the best lawyers money can buy, they get to perp walk in style to the courtroom where they can easily and immediately post bail, and then after a short bit of 'processing' they get to perp walk right out again, in style, and back to the comfort of their gated guarded homes.
Fuck 'em.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Are you saying his orientation to the world was seriously deviant/criminal
or
are you saying his serious disturbance is a symptom of illness?
or
something else, perhaps multiple other things?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)If the allegations are partly or mostly true, it seems to be a symptom of illness.
It could be that he was just a serial rapist who would not take no for an answer, just dominating women who denied his advances. He used his position of fame and power to do it.
But, it seems it was not just that, but also a sexual perversion, getting off on sex with sedated or unconscious women.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I could speculate that you are thinking about a sexual paraphilia such as somnophilia. But you may be thinking of something else entirely.
Generally speaking all the paraphiliae are 'deviant' in as much as their diagnoses requires them to be objectively 'non-normophilic' sexual encounters. Moreover, like all sexual encounters, it must be recognized that any paraphilic sexual encounter would be considered sexual assault when it involves persons who do not-consent.
The questions that arise are whether a paraphilia would be the basis for an insanity defense based on some 'irresistible urge', or whether the the root of the problem should more properly be seen in a person having adopted attitudes that even with awareness of wrong-doing nonetheless lead planning and action to achieve an anti-social objective.
Of course, there's no reason to believe that having a paraphilia and commiting anti-social acts must be mutually exclusive.
However research results have argued that psychiatric symptoms, per se, are only weakly correlated to criminal behavior, (http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/lhb-0000075.pdf). The conclusions of that study, and an APA editorial based on that research finding, suggest that rather than looking at the symptoms of mental illness for causation of criminal behavior, the motive for criminal behavior is better sought in factors leading to antisocial orientation.