for totally fucking up their entire lineup, getting rid of their best people and showing All Trump All The Time.

is beyond the pale.

go down when they talk about Sanders or O'Malley. They are thought of as a network primarily for Democrats. Democrats are not hungry to hear Trump's latest slur repeated and dissected from 5 am to midnight.

because it mentions 'three networks' then talks about cable outlets which are not the three networks. The news programming on each of the three broadcast networks each night is in the millions, week of December 14: NBC 8,830,000 ABC: 8,396,000 CBS 7,355,000. So 24.5 million people are watching the news on those three. What was Fox's average? 1.8 million? If we combined all the cable outlets into one big audience it would still be a fraction of CBS viewership alone.
The other huge element is demographic. These cold viewer numbers count everyone, the real deal is the 25-54 age group in which Fox really fails. CBS News, for example, has in demo totals as large as Fox News entire viewership. Not good.

1.8, or 'just under 1.8' million is not that many people in television terms. And that's their peak cheese. Most of their programming and most cable commentary programming in general is so scantly watched it is hard to call it mass media without snickering in my cuff.

I feel better but more importantly, you've clarified some confusing data. Mahalo for that.

and restaurant, and gas station, and bar and and and has FOX News on? I wonder if that pushes up their ratings..the damn channel is on every where all the time...it would appear as tho a lot more people watch FOX when they aren't.
That's one huge difference and advantage over the other infotainment cable news outlets I see for FOX over the rest...

No ratings would actually be gathered from the audiences in waiting rooms, etc., but those who are actually in "Neilsen families" might become more inclined from public exposure to watch it at home where it counts.

hosp rooms/wait rooms etc at least count as One household? That's the advantage. Not that every person is claimed as a viewer - but rather every cable connection?
I don't know what criteria they use as a measure...but If my question is at all applicable...these "extra FOX viewers" could skew the results. "Popularity" even If false-also skews the mind...."everybody else watches FOX-they must know" sheeple.
And in some parts of the country-FOX is All they have access to...as "some people" have stated

CNN picks three stories a day and repeats over and over again. MSNBC is political crap all day every day.

If CNN went back to reporting actual news maybe they would get back into gas stations and such.

Fox wins because it tells you the news and slips in its political crap and the goes back to the news. The others don't seem to get the formula.

Everytime I hear we have 24/7 time to fill, I say well there is plenty to learn in those hours. It does not have to be all political "debate".

He was talking about how he had helped management decide to get rid of their liberal image and become more "mainstream".
He doesn't like Rachel and he despises Lawrence? They are prob next on chopping block.
They don't care about ratings on msnbc. Just can't offend corporate overlords.

Should be renamed Comcast. One of the most dislike Cable providers in History.

were giving him so much free publicity?

their mission is not eyeballs. Their mission is to control the news. Mission accomplished

I get better news from Thom Hartmann on RT five nights a week (The Big Picture With Thom Hartmann) at 6 pm Central.

And Al Jazeera America has better and more objective news as well.

Sat and Sun mornings kinda were ok. Evenings with Chris, O'Donnell and Rachael. Throwing out Ed, bad move.

The early morning fun fest with Joe and Mika or Mika and Joe. God help us all,...............

We don't watch MSNBC anymore..........

Sounds like a song maybe.....,.....

How disingenuous of this competitor to offer such green manure..... lol
The Reason that they are Still struggling is because they decided to go lean Waaaay further right and dumped a bunch of great people.

If "lacking Andy" wants seriously to get viewers back they may want to offer some quality investigative journalism and be watchdogs of the govt for the people as intended.
Net Neutrality, Police Abuse, Income Inequality, TPP, in depth reports on Congress and legislative intent, wall street crimes, keystone, climate change and the environment, GOP racism/fascism, state governments/ethics/corruption etc, etc, etc.

Unfortunately, there probably isn't anywhere that's better.

The good news for me and others is Wi-Fi enabled DVD players. I watch Thom, Cenk, get needed Pap attacks and more right on my TV. I hope Olberman comes back soon then all would be good.

I have lost a bit of respect for Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell....who have toed the line to stay on the air; no TPP talk and other parameters. I already lost respect for Tweety, ever since his get a room moment gushing about Dubya during that fake victory landing on the aircraft carrier.

It's NOT PLEASANT for a person of average-and-above intelligence to watch him. Why don't they realize this?

I'm happy to watch the talking heads talk about him, but his in-person campaign appearances are actually super super boring. ME ME ME ME ME ME. YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN.

Followed by more prison documentaries. I'm sure their viewership would skyrocket!!!

keep the politicians under control. I really believe nothing will improve in the US until they are broken up.