Also, I was under the impression that it wouldn't have mattered. The women were drugged anyways. It's not like they had to be in his room.

Also, if a superstar invited you to go talk to him in his room, wouldn't you? It's not like he said, "Come in here so that I can rape you."

And, yes, this happens to men, too. Not Cosby, but others.

A superstar? Perhaps this is the problem in our society. We project our wishes on superstars who are just like regular people.

It's not common sense. What you're doing is erasing the line between consensual sex and nonconsensual sex. WTF is your problem?

Saying Yes is consensual sex. Are you trying to say that the women did go to his room for a consensual sex and then changed their mind?

It's kinda icky.

You're wrong, and offensively so. I'm surprised your OP hasn't been hidden yet.

that always means she is expecting to have sex with him? Seriously? So Cosby's victims "asked for it," right?

I have had the same thought. I was in a hot springs with an attractive woman from Germany who verbally took the head off a man who said something sexist to her. We here need to be more clear about appropriate behavior. We have allowed too much to happen. Fifty women waited way too long to report on Cosby. And our culture still is not supporting them very well.

You should delete this.

She was an unsophisticated state worker working at a desk at a conference.

All the sudden a state trooper tells you the Governor needs to see you and takes you to his room.

What are you thinking?

First you're excited. Wait till I tell my husband and the girls at work. I got to meet the Governor. But what are you expecting when you get there? Maybe they'll be three other women there and the governor tells you he needs a few people to handle a back room for the speakers and dignitaries getting them food, drink and whatever else they need.

You sure don't expect to be alone with the Governor who then pulls his pants and underwear down and asks you to kiss his erection.

Paula Jones didn't deserve that, had no reason to expect it, and also didn't deserve the crap she got from Clinton's people such as James Carville saying drag a $ 20 bill through a trailer park and this is what you get.

No, we can defend some things, but this is a bridge too far for me.

happened.

reason a woman would go to a man's hotel room is to have sex.

No one is saying it's the only reason that a woman goes to a man's room/house/apartment/car -- but so what if she did? That doesn't mean that things can't get out of hand or go beyond wherever she was comfortable.

And going to someone's room/house/apartment/car for something OTHER than sex doesn't mean that the woman should expect sex to happen once she's there---as if the mere idea of a woman and a man being alone together gives free consent for him to do whatever he wants because hey! she's at my house.

This OP is a trolling, victim-blaming post. I tend to agree with you on most things, but I think you're getting upset at the wrong people

Shameful post. You should delete it.

The op is implying that ANY woman going into a man's room is agreeing to sex with him. That is not only sexist bullshit, it is victim-blaming. It is implying a woman going into a man's room is agreeing to a sexual encounter with that man, and if something happens, well, what did she expect? This kind of rape apologia does not belong on DU.

Just because I agree to make out doesn't mean I agree to sex

Just because I agree to give someone a blow job doesn't give automatic consent for sex

Just because I agree to vaginal sex doesn't mean i automatically agree to anal or oral sex

Just because I agree to have a dude go down on me doesn't mean I automatically agree to give him a blow job

Just because I agree to have sex doesn't mean I can't withdraw that consent anytime during the act of sex if I so desire

SO that's why women go to men's rooms. Not to read Shakespeare, but to consent to some but not ALL of the things.

You'd think people would know that by now. Apparently not.

A pathetic OP it is too.

the sex is wrong.

I'm a 40 year old woman. I have heard this "well what was a good girl like her expecting when she went to that mans' house/room/bed"

She was probably looking for cuddling, sex, a pinky in the stinky, make-out, hand-job, blow job, or face sitting. The idea that "good" women don't anticipate or want sex is repulsive. And a woman agreeing to some doesn't give automatic consent for all.

It's a puritanical attitude that I have faced personally after my own rape. "Well what did you expect?" I didn't expect to get raped, and the fact that I was agreeable to some aspect of sexual contact seems to imply to many people that I was willing for anything and everything to happen -- from forced sodomy to a gangbang with the NY Jets.

that's not how it works.

How can anyone not get this???

there were often meetings that took place in people's suites. And I have no doubt that he had a suite.

... But we should avoid really stupid questions. However, even that leads to this:

But then decide against it because

1) He's sloppy drunk
2) His wedding ring is in the drawer
3) He has drugs ending in - vir
4) She got tired and doesn't want sex
5) She changed her mind for any other reason, which is her right.

"I'm not blaming the victim, but...." is the same as "I'm not a racist, but..."

Yes. It's blaming the victim.

And there was no allegation of Paula Jones being drugged. So why are you conflating drugging cases with Paula Jones?

and it STINKS

Are you saying that Bill Clinton's white privilege protects him while Cosby (and Mike Tyson) were prosecuted since it was Tyson's accuser who went up to his room after midnight?

You must have missed the door to RedState on the right.

And not once did I rape them because of their current location . This OP speaks volumes about your perceptions in life however , and even more about your sense of self responsibility . Grow up .