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Anybody here old enough to remember H. Humphrey supporting Mayor Daley (Original Post) ellenrr Jan 2016 OP
It was how things were done back then... FarPoint Jan 2016 #1
Do you believe that was the correct decision? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #2
no of course not. How could it be the right decision to support ellenrr Jan 2016 #11
Humpharey was a fine liberal. former9thward Jan 2016 #18
Humphrey was a liberal and a warmongerer. ellenrr Jan 2016 #20
No he was not. former9thward Jan 2016 #23
HHH was a good man. H2O Man Jan 2016 #31
Yes, you are correct. former9thward Jan 2016 #34
as far as being a liberal, that's not a compliment, "Love me Love me I'm a liberal... ellenrr Jan 2016 #21
Ochs was a fine protest singer. former9thward Jan 2016 #24
I was old enough to vote for him. Paka Jan 2016 #3
1972 was McGovern catnhatnh Jan 2016 #5
I didn't say I voted for Carter in '72. Paka Jan 2016 #15
I misunderstood catnhatnh Jan 2016 #17
My bad. Paka Jan 2016 #19
my very same thought - the last time I voted my conscience in the general election Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #29
Somewhere I still have my "Wall Street for McGovern" button eom LiberalElite Jan 2016 #30
Is a Democratic candidate endorsing a police crackdown of protestors? brooklynite Jan 2016 #4
I happened to be watching the PBS documentary 1968, and among many other dramatic moments of that ellenrr Jan 2016 #12
Yes. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #6
Yes. And, being appalled that the convention nominated him. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #7
How did Hubert Humphrey support Daley and the troops? tabasco Jan 2016 #8
here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/Chicago1968/ ellenrr Jan 2016 #13
I must be doing something wrong. tabasco Jan 2016 #14
I watched it on TV. femmocrat Jan 2016 #9
I remember a lot of convention photos of John Connaly Hangingon Jan 2016 #10
I was a lowly Dem in my in-laws beautiful digs in Hilton Head Island... CTyankee Jan 2016 #16
Was in Bermuda with folks and family friends, yank, elleng Jan 2016 #28
You leave the dome out of this... Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #22
the most memorable speech 1968 convention -Sen. Abraham Ribicoff confronted Daley Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #25
Yes. THANKS! elleng Jan 2016 #27
Yes. Lived in Chicago at the time, elleng Jan 2016 #26
"The Whole World is watching" remember that - here is another short video Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #32
Tom Lehrer on Hubert HERVEPA Jan 2016 #33

FarPoint

(12,417 posts)
1. It was how things were done back then...
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 07:57 AM
Jan 2016

I was in Middle School.... A turbulent time. Change came out of it....

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
11. no of course not. How could it be the right decision to support
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jan 2016

police beating peaceful demonstrators.
(If you want to see it watch this-
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/Chicago1968/
It is as vicious as anything we've seen.
Rightfully referred to as a police riot.
They swung their batons at anything that moved.

Right decision to support Daley?
No again - one of the most corrupt racist mayors - a real king-pin of the political machine.

Just cuz someone is nominally a Democrat, doesn't mean they are necessarily a good person.
Hubert Humphrey was a war-mongerer.

former9thward

(32,039 posts)
18. Humpharey was a fine liberal.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jan 2016

He was booed at the 1948 Democratic Convention for having the courage to even mention civil rights when no one else would. You can argue that he was a too loyal VP to LBJ but he certainly was no "war-monger".

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
20. Humphrey was a liberal and a warmongerer.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:00 AM
Jan 2016

If you don't know he was a war-mongerer you need to read more.
or maybe your definition of a war-mongerer is different than mine:
one who advocates war as the solution.

former9thward

(32,039 posts)
23. No he was not.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jan 2016

He advocated a stop to the bombing and LBJ finally did in October, 1968. I don't need to read more. I was the chairman of my university's SDS chapter in the fall of 1968 and I was leading demonstrations against the war.

H2O Man

(73,577 posts)
31. HHH was a good man.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jan 2016

But he lacked the spine required to take a position different from LBJ, until far too late in the 1968 election. Thus, he lost the support of those who could have made him president, instead of Nixon.

I've always respected your opinion here on DU. But I do not agree with the stance that you are taking here, regarding HHH's position on Vietnam in '68.

former9thward

(32,039 posts)
34. Yes, you are correct.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 01:47 AM
Jan 2016

I was originally McCarthy supporter -even though I was only 17 at the time. I hitchhiked to Chicago in 1968 and became and what I considered a revolutionary based on my experiences at the convention. I hated the Democratic party as a result and HHH in particular. But as I matured and looked at history I reevaluated my thoughts. I always read your posts , particularly about the local politics in New York.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
21. as far as being a liberal, that's not a compliment, "Love me Love me I'm a liberal...
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jan 2016

Phil Ochs:
Love Me, I'm a Liberal Lyrics

I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
as long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crain?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I read New republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like Korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I vote for the democratic party
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

former9thward

(32,039 posts)
24. Ochs was a fine protest singer.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jan 2016

But he was a very troubled person, especially towards the end. R.I.P.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
3. I was old enough to vote for him.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jan 2016

Not enthusiastic, but it was a strange year. My first strong positive vote came in '72. Happily voted for Carter, but I spent many years after that out in the wilderness LOTE voting. Finally in 2016 I get to vote for the person I totally believe in and want to be my President. It's been a long time coming.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
15. I didn't say I voted for Carter in '72.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jan 2016

I said my first enthusiastic vote was in '72. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I not only voted for McGovern in '72, but worked hard on the campaign and still have the telegram I got personally from him thanking me for all I did. I may be old, but I'm not senile yet.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
17. I misunderstood
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jan 2016

Sorry about that. I saw Humphrey in the summer of '68 even though I was to young to vote...

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
29. my very same thought - the last time I voted my conscience in the general election
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jan 2016

without reservation - was on my 18th Birthday - November 7, 1972(the first time 18 year-olds could vote nationally) I made it by one day. I just hope that before I leave this world I can do it again this year.

brooklynite

(94,635 posts)
4. Is a Democratic candidate endorsing a police crackdown of protestors?
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:56 AM
Jan 2016

If not, I'm not clear what the point of the OP is.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
12. I happened to be watching the PBS documentary 1968, and among many other dramatic moments of that
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jan 2016

terrible year -
I was reminded of HH's own words in condemning the demonstrations.
so I am reminding people, many of whom on this board may be too young to have been alive then.
That is my only purpose.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. Yes. And, being appalled that the convention nominated him.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jan 2016

He'd already lost most of his credibility as a liberal by sticking with LBJ but that was a real slap in the face.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
13. here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/Chicago1968/
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jan 2016

sorry I guess my post was somewhat cryptic - it was early morning.
at the link you can hear his own words.
it's pretty awful. imo.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
14. I must be doing something wrong.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jan 2016

I don't get any video at the PBS site. Tried three different browsers.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. I was a lowly Dem in my in-laws beautiful digs in Hilton Head Island...
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jan 2016

Nice place, nice golf courses...

come the Chicago convention on TV and uh oh...my inlaws were in shock and blaming those "rioters." I was in shock that it actually happened...

quite a night...everybody had a lot to drink, that's for sure...

elleng

(131,017 posts)
28. Was in Bermuda with folks and family friends, yank,
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jan 2016

but lived in Chicago so, and imagine this, guess I was 'political' then too, left Bermuda EARLY to be 'home' for the 'party!' So thanks to Daley it was worth it, as I'd worked at the Cook County Jail (as a 'legal secretary, haha!) I knew the Warden, and he let me return to help them sort and classify, and to help the quickly jailed to get help, medical etc, to contact their friends and families, etc.

elleng

(131,017 posts)
26. Yes. Lived in Chicago at the time,
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:31 PM
Jan 2016

helped people get help in Cook County Jail, couldn't make myself vote for HHH (due to war/LBJ,) (so we got skunked with nixon. )

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