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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 05:01 PM Jan 2016

So that footage in the Trump ad of people running across the border? Comes from MOROCCO

Yep, and they say using footage from Morroco was "1000% on purpose":

Trump Camp On Border Ad Fact Check: ‘No Sh*t’ That’s Not Mexico



In Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s first TV ad, released Monday, the candidate renewed his promise to secure the U.S. border with Mexico – making his case using footage of people sprinting across the border in Morocco.

Politifact traced the footage, which is paired with narration promising Trump would “stop illegal immigration by building a wall on our southern border that Mexico will pay for,” to 2014 video of Moroccans crossing over the border into Melilla, a Spanish enclave in North Africa.

Trump’s ad makes no mention of the source of the footage, which Politifact reported came from the Italian network RepubblicaTV. For the campaign's implication that the footage showed the U.S. border with Mexico, Politifact slapped the claim with its “pants on fire” rating.

The Trump campaign wasn’t particularly moved by the watchdog organization’s findings.

Asked about the footage, Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s campaign manager, told NBC News: “No shit it’s not the Mexican border but that’s what our country is going to look like. This was 1,000 percent on purpose.”

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-morocco-border-fact-check
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So that footage in the Trump ad of people running across the border? Comes from MOROCCO (Original Post) MohRokTah Jan 2016 OP
Good old conflation. blogslut Jan 2016 #1
The old "bait and switch" eom MohRokTah Jan 2016 #7
Why don't these media people point out that net migration is people heading back to Mexico? Human101948 Jan 2016 #2
Eye Balls and Ad Sales Baby. Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #3
Trump demands apology from Morocco. Buzz Clik Jan 2016 #4
The point about Melilla should be that they already have a barrier - and people still breach it muriel_volestrangler Jan 2016 #5
I know both Melilla BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #10
Mexico, Morocco, what's the diff? gratuitous Jan 2016 #6
Top Men... Lucky Luciano Jan 2016 #9
Are you scared yet , kacekwl Jan 2016 #8
 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
2. Why don't these media people point out that net migration is people heading back to Mexico?
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jan 2016

Trumpo followers are such idiots.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,323 posts)
5. The point about Melilla should be that they already have a barrier - and people still breach it
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 05:34 PM
Jan 2016
African migrants storm into Spanish enclave of Melilla

More than 200 migrants from sub-Saharan Africa have broken into Spain's North African enclave of Melilla by scaling the border fence.

It is one of the biggest migrant surges into Melilla in recent years.

Many of the migrants suffered cuts scaling the fence. During the incident, migrants threw stones, sticks and bottles at police, officials say.

This month there have been similar mass break-ins in Melilla and Ceuta - another Spanish city in North Africa.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26382589


"Melilla's formidable border barrier does not deter migrants desperate to get into Europe"

Hundreds breach Spain enclave border

At least 1,000 migrants have tried to storm the border fence between Morocco and the Spanish enclave of Melilla, officials say.

Some 400 migrants - from sub-Saharan African countries - are thought to have successfully scaled the fence, which divides Africa from Europe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-27601215

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
10. I know both Melilla
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 08:10 AM
Jan 2016

and Ceuta well. Both are anachronisms as Spanish enclaves in Africa and yet have thriving mixed societies.

Ceuta, in particular used to have a fairly porous border, at least into the 1980s. At the time, there was a requirement for foreign residents of Morocco to have a return visa before they were allowed to leave the country and the visa had to be stamped at a border crossing within three months of its issuance to be considered valid. At the Ceuta crossing in those days, one could drive to the border, park one's car, and take all passports, presumably from passengers, to the window where the visas could be stamped/validated and the occupants of the car were not necessarily controlled or even counted.

I know of an instance where an American woman married to a Moroccan (who was imprisoned after the 1972 coup attempt against then-King Hassan II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Moroccan_coup_attempt) was able to leave the country with her child in this way. The husband's family - who basically had rights of refusal over the departure of their grandchild - would allow her to leave, but not the child. A mutual friend drove them both to Ceuta, parked the car, walked to the control window alone, and had their passports stamped by officials who didn't even look twice at the passports simply because the man presenting them for the exit stamp was a male US citizen. The assumption was that the woman and child were his wife and child (they had US passports but no return visa). It was a very courageous act on his part; he could have been imprisoned in Morocco had the subterfuge been discovered. But things in Ceuta were pretty casual in those days. In any event, the story ultimately ended happily when the husband was finally released and reunited with his family in the US.

The return visa requirement for foreign residents of Morocco was waived in 2005 and now all that one has to do is to present one's registration card to be allowed to enter and exit freely. http://www.moroccanconsulate.com/visa.cfm

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Mexico, Morocco, what's the diff?
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 05:45 PM
Jan 2016

Trump will hire top men* to figure out where all the countries on the planet are. He's more of a big picture, global (well, not global-global, you know what I mean) kind of guy.

*Top. Men.

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