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Rams baby! (Original Post) cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 OP
Are they headed back to Cleveland? SaintLouisBlues Jan 2016 #1
They left Cleveland before there WAS an NFL after being there only 9 years cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #5
Cleveland won the 1945 NFL Championship, so yeah, the league existed. SaintLouisBlues Jan 2016 #6
Yeah well... Here's to the hope that you have a Most Wonderful Evening. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #8
Thanks, I'll get over it. I've now lost two teams, so been there done that. SaintLouisBlues Jan 2016 #12
Not a problem. I was bummed when they left... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #17
All perspective, which side you are on. rufus dog Jan 2016 #19
Come. COME! tabasco Jan 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author kwolf68 Jan 2016 #22
Good riddance. pintobean Jan 2016 #2
Maybe a major cross town rivalry will form between them and the Chargers now. eom MohRokTah Jan 2016 #3
The Chargers were given a buck or two for stadium upgrades I believe. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #4
Reports are now both the Rams and Chargers in Inglewood tishaLA Jan 2016 #7
Raiders have option if Chargers don't move rufus dog Jan 2016 #9
I can't figure out which reports are right at this point tishaLA Jan 2016 #13
Looking at different sources also. rufus dog Jan 2016 #16
San Antonio has again reared its ugly head KamaAina Jan 2016 #27
Actually San Antonio would probably support a team rufus dog Jan 2016 #39
The league has repeatedly said it does not want a third team in Texas. KamaAina Jan 2016 #40
Poison Pill. Xolodno Jan 2016 #31
Been waiting for this day for a long ass time!! Initech Jan 2016 #10
And since I'm anything but a Fair Weather Fan I guess I'll jump on the rollercoaster... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #11
I'm still a Cardinals fan and I'll root for them no matter what. Initech Jan 2016 #15
I'm happy for you guys pintobean Jan 2016 #14
Hell yes! denbot Jan 2016 #18
Tell her I will buy the tickets from you for the Niners game rufus dog Jan 2016 #20
It's a lock the first Rams hosting the Niners back in LA will be packed to the rafters. denbot Jan 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #21
until he decides LA can't support his crappy team pstokely Jan 2016 #24
Lawrence Phillips had no comment pintobean Jan 2016 #25
The poster boy for completely fucking up your life. hifiguy Jan 2016 #35
Never got used to it. tazkcmo Jan 2016 #26
The Texans were one of the original AFL teams KamaAina Jan 2016 #28
I knew that! joeybee12 Jan 2016 #30
If my team left me, I wouldn't welcome them back... joeybee12 Jan 2016 #29
Yeah. St Louis was competing for an expansion team pintobean Jan 2016 #33
I neve got used to "St Louis Rams" hifiguy Jan 2016 #34
The Trojans are still the best team in Los Angeles Bad Thoughts Jan 2016 #36
LA Lambs? Trajan Jan 2016 #37
The winner is the taxpayers of St. Louis and Missouri exboyfil Jan 2016 #38
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
5. They left Cleveland before there WAS an NFL after being there only 9 years
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jan 2016

A hair short of 50 years in Los Angeles... I remember seeing this poster at one of the last games they played before moving to St. Louis: "Ex-showgirl strippers shouldn't be allowed to own football teams".

Georgia had Carroll Rosenbloom killed. Then moved his team.

SaintLouisBlues

(1,244 posts)
6. Cleveland won the 1945 NFL Championship, so yeah, the league existed.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jan 2016

Enjoy your new gold digger.

Assholes that marry Walmart heiresses shouldn't be allowed to own teams either I guess.

SaintLouisBlues

(1,244 posts)
12. Thanks, I'll get over it. I've now lost two teams, so been there done that.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:43 PM
Jan 2016

In the meantime, pardon my spleen venting.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
17. Not a problem. I was bummed when they left...
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jan 2016

I'm sure that which brings me joy tonight instills the same loss in many others. I have a bit of guilt over that.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
19. All perspective, which side you are on.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:13 AM
Jan 2016

My dad was at the 1945 championship game, he hated the Rams the minute they left Cleveland. I bet I heard the story 100 times how the city supported the Rams, then they left. I grew up in Phx and left shortly before the Cardinals bolted for Phx. I go back to visit and the old man proudly brings out his season tickets.

I wait about an hour and ask how is that different from the Rams bolting Cleveland, it takes him a minute but finally spurts out they won a championship damn it.

Response to SaintLouisBlues (Reply #6)

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
4. The Chargers were given a buck or two for stadium upgrades I believe.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:53 PM
Jan 2016

I don't think they're even slated to decide until after next season, although I may have read that incorrectly.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
7. Reports are now both the Rams and Chargers in Inglewood
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jan 2016

although the terms of the marriage haven't been finalized.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
9. Raiders have option if Chargers don't move
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:37 PM
Jan 2016

Chargers get 100 million towards SD stadium if they stay. (I think the offer is for the Raiders too)

I am sticking with my original predictions, the NFL couldn't do squat to stop the Rams. They want SD to stay put and the Raiders can do whatever makes them happy.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
13. I can't figure out which reports are right at this point
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jan 2016

Local CBS news in LA reported @6ish that the Raiders would get $500 million to upgrade the stadium. And at that point, the Rams were the only sure thing. Allegedly. Then Pro Football Talk, which I trust, reported that the Chargers wold be coming to LA too.

I guess I have to wait for more smoke to clear. I really can't see why a divided LA market would be smarter for the NFL than a team in LA and another in SD, but....

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
16. Looking at different sources also.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jan 2016

I am hoping it is a bluff with SD. Both teams could use new stadiums, but leaving SD seems like a bad plan. I think the NFL feels SD will provide funding and Oakland won't, thus the Chargers getting the option first.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
27. San Antonio has again reared its ugly head
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jan 2016
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/raiders-could-playing-texas-soon-040346098.html

Still up in the air is the future of the San Diego Chargers and the Oakland Raiders. The Chargers' future seems a little more clear-cut. The Chargers have two months to decide whether they want to move to Los Angeles for the 2016 season and one year to decide whether they will move there at all.

The bigger mystery is where the Raiders will play next season, and the possibilities are seemingly endless but may point to a choice between staying in Oakland or moving to San Antonio.

The Raiders' lease at the Coliseum in Oakland has expired, which means the team is free to move anywhere....

In 2014, the Raiders met with San Antonio officials about a potential move. While many shrugged that off at the time, there is now a feeling that such a move is possible. According to Jason Cole of Bleacher Report, the Raiders have already secured land in the Austin/San Antonio area for a potential stadium. With the Alamodome already in place, this strongly suggests that the Raiders could be playing in Texas as soon as next season.


 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
39. Actually San Antonio would probably support a team
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:28 PM
Jan 2016

Issue is we would have to listen to the lame Texans brag about stealing a CA team.

No issue with most people I have met in SA, nor the city, Dallas is another story.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
40. The league has repeatedly said it does not want a third team in Texas.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:33 PM
Jan 2016

Look how well the third Florida team, the Jags, worked out.

Xolodno

(6,398 posts)
31. Poison Pill.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

If the Chargers move, they have to pay the NFL a relocation fee...plus share the costs of the new stadium (along with the profits...if any). The real moolah is going to be the entertainment zone around the area which the current Rams owner will develop and will not share the profits. If they they stay put then the NFL will give them 100 Mill in helping with the stadium updates (or new stadium).

Raiders have the option to move to LA if Chargers opt out...but they have the same deal. Wouldn't be surprised if the Raiders started looking at San Antonio, TX.

So basically, move and hope you make money or stay put on more of a sure thing.

Realistically, LA can't support two NFL teams. You have two Basketball teams, an LA based Hockey and Baseball team with an Orange County Hockey and Baseball team 30 minutes (no traffic...which is rare) down the road. And then you have two College Football teams which has been filling the "need" for awhile.....and all this will still be a big draw. Economics just not there for two NFL teams.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
11. And since I'm anything but a Fair Weather Fan I guess I'll jump on the rollercoaster...
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:41 PM
Jan 2016

And support them through thick and thin just as I always did. Same with the Dodgers... bums.

Initech

(100,100 posts)
15. I'm still a Cardinals fan and I'll root for them no matter what.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:49 PM
Jan 2016

But having the Rams here means I won't have to go very far to see the Cardinals.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
14. I'm happy for you guys
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:48 PM
Jan 2016

I'm also sad for the fans in St. Louis.

I just don't understand the strong attachment for a mediocre team with a habit of leaving their fans.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
18. Hell yes!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:01 AM
Jan 2016

Watched them in the L. A. Coliseum as a young boy, then at Anahiem Statium as a young man, never liked the Radiers, so I am happy to have my favorite team back home again.

Now all I have to do is figure out two things; How to scrape together enough for season tickets. And then how to talk the wife in to letting me buy season tickets!

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
20. Tell her I will buy the tickets from you for the Niners game
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:19 AM
Jan 2016

I remember a few games at the Big A, one Monday Night game was about 80% Niner fans. I see the Cardinals are having the same problem in Phx., even with a good team a lot of tickets end up in the hands of the visitors.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
23. It's a lock the first Rams hosting the Niners back in LA will be packed to the rafters.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:08 AM
Jan 2016

Those games were fun to attended, even back when Joe Montana was slicing through the Rams secondary like a cartoon ninja.

Response to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

pstokely

(10,530 posts)
24. until he decides LA can't support his crappy team
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:52 AM
Jan 2016

because they won't fill the stadium for a crappy team

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
25. Lawrence Phillips had no comment
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jan 2016
Lawrence Phillips, the former football star facing murder charges, was found unresponsive early Wednesday at Kern Valley State Prison and rushed to a hospital where he was pronounced dead, California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation spokeswoman Terry Thornton told USA TODAY Sports.

The death is being investigated as a suspected suicide, according to press release from the department.

Phillips, 40, was facing the possible death penalty in the alleged murder of his former cellmate at Kern Valley State Prison. At a preliminary hearing on Tuesday, a Superior Court judge ruled there was "sufficient cause to believe'' Phillips committed murder, according to court records, which cleared the way for a trial that could have ended with Phillips getting the death penalty.

<snip>

Phillips was the star running back on the University of Nebraska’s national championship teams in 1994 and 1995, and a first-round pick, sixth overall, in the 1996 NFL draft. He played for three seasons with the St. Louis Rams, Miami Dolphins and San Francisco 49ers. In 2009, he was sentenced to 31 years in prison for two separate incidents — driving his car into three teenagers and assaulting an ex-girlfriend.




http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/01/13/lawrence-phillips-death-prison/78742058/

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
26. Never got used to it.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jan 2016

It's the LA Rams and St Louis Cardinals and wtf are Texans? Congrats LA. This time keep em!

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
29. If my team left me, I wouldn't welcome them back...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jan 2016

This whole situation really stinks...and smacks of greed.

I can't recall why they moved to STL in the first place? Probably over a new stadium.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
33. Yeah. St Louis was competing for an expansion team
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jan 2016

Carolina and Jacksonville got the expansion teams and the Rams took advantage of the situation and got a sweet deal in St. Louis. We built them a brand new dome that we'll be paying for for another six years.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
34. I neve got used to "St Louis Rams"
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jan 2016

and I've been an NFL fan for more than 45 years. Indianapolis Colts, yes, St Louis Rams, no.

I do remember the LA Lambs having to journey from sunny SoCal to the frozen tundra of the long-gone Metropolitan Stadium to play the Vikings in the playoffs. One steely glare from Bud Grant was enough to send them running.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
37. LA Lambs?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jan 2016

I remember when Georgia picked up and ran out of town with her cute little team. .

I don't live in LA anymore, so I have no chit in play, but, we were pretty pissed about the move to St Louis ... I washed my hands of them and wished them well ..

What? .. You're BACK? ... Get outta here!

Go away!

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
38. The winner is the taxpayers of St. Louis and Missouri
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:56 PM
Jan 2016

I am waiting to see how the actual funding goes for the new LA stadium. Right now the Rams owner seems to be proposing a plan with little if any public money involved. I salute that approach if it is so. St. Louis tried to keep the Rams with $400M in public money (they still owe $100M on their last bad deal on the current stadium).

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