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pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:33 PM Jan 2016

Do Trump's supporters not care about his wife's Internet porn photos,

Last edited Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:51 PM - Edit history (1)

are they unaware of them, or what?

And I'm not just talking about the one on the rug -- there are more, full frontal.

If our candidate runs against Trump, is this a fair issue to bring up? Or do we just pretend the photos don't exist because we're better than the Rethugs are, and why shouldn't a former porn star make a great First Lady?

P.S. Some of the nude photos included another beauty, too. I wonder what Kim Davis would think.

ON EDIT: And they're positioning her as the next Jackie Kennedy.

http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/shed-be-the-only-first-lady-to-have-posed-in-the-buff/2247950

"She provides great balance" to Trump, said Roger Stone, the candidate's former political adviser who has known the couple since before they were married. She is smart — "not just an armpiece," Stone said. "She would be the most glamourous first lady since Jackie Kennedy."

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Do Trump's supporters not care about his wife's Internet porn photos, (Original Post) pnwmom Jan 2016 OP
I was unaware of them. Was she in porn films or just photos? Vinca Jan 2016 #1
What I saw were still photos, but it is possible one was a pnwmom Jan 2016 #6
The ones I saw were of her posing in Trump's new jet. randr Jan 2016 #18
Don't think so, they are so tacky and hateful, they don't care about having any respect or decency! Yupy Jan 2016 #2
Perhaps this is Trump's idea of full disclosure? eom guillaumeb Jan 2016 #3
IOKIYAR nt WhiteTara Jan 2016 #4
Why should anyone care? jberryhill Jan 2016 #5
My question wasn't "why" it was more "whether." You think the party of pnwmom Jan 2016 #7
No I don't think they'd care jberryhill Jan 2016 #21
Or that Nancy was pregnant when they were married Lochloosa Jan 2016 #30
There you go again, HubertHeaver Jan 2016 #39
It's. a gift Lochloosa Jan 2016 #45
In medicine it's called Naegele's Rule. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2016 #52
Ever hear of her nickname Mendocino Jan 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #77
Yep....nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #86
Normal people shouldn't care, but for the religious right and to suddenly change their tune... Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2016 #67
She doesn't have any internet porn pics cali Jan 2016 #8
What do you mean? They're on the Internet identified as her, pnwmom Jan 2016 #9
Link please cali Jan 2016 #10
No, I'm not referring to modeling pics. I think you'd have to pnwmom Jan 2016 #11
No,you don't have to be wearing clothes for them to be modeling pics. cali Jan 2016 #13
You don't think the photo of the woman pnwmom Jan 2016 #14
No one could tell. cali Jan 2016 #15
Not by her face? Do you think it's someone who looks just like her? pnwmom Jan 2016 #17
Google image search any female celebrity with the words porn or nude jberryhill Jan 2016 #53
I wonder why Trump doesn't sue the site, if the pictures are false. It's not like pnwmom Jan 2016 #55
Sue for what? jberryhill Jan 2016 #103
Defamation. If they photoshopped her head on someone else's porn photos pnwmom Jan 2016 #106
In what way is she being "defamed" jberryhill Jan 2016 #113
Yeah, spoken as the lawyer for the porn site. The lawyer for the Trumps pnwmom Jan 2016 #115
I don't know if they are fakes. xmas74 Jan 2016 #90
Your definition of porn is very strange...nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #87
This is clearly a fake nude site. Photoshop. Nailzberg Jan 2016 #27
You don't get these images just by searching her name melman Jan 2016 #76
"They're on the Internet identified as her" jberryhill Jan 2016 #25
I agree cali. They are far from "porn" pics. Pick up any Cosmo and you'll see the same type of pic Lochloosa Jan 2016 #31
Going on what I presume to be the intelligence level of the average male Trumpenstein supporter DebbieCDC Jan 2016 #12
If I could I would show up at a Trump rally randr Jan 2016 #16
Really, why should ANYONE care? nt hifiguy Jan 2016 #19
Can you imagine their reaction if a Democratic First Lady had that background? pnwmom Jan 2016 #22
No, I am in the "I don't give a shit hifiguy Jan 2016 #26
Michelle Obama gets slammed by Republicans Staph Jan 2016 #42
This^^^ so true Person 2713 Jan 2016 #102
I'm all for labeling Trump a tacky bastard without slut shaming his wife… MrScorpio Jan 2016 #20
What if he's their candidate in the General? pnwmom Jan 2016 #23
Two wrongs don't make a right… MrScorpio Jan 2016 #28
Id just like these rightwing prudes to go on records as to why they're suddenly so open minded Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2016 #69
They don't care about a lot of OTHER things about ol' Delirium Tremens over there jmowreader Jan 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #108
Don't care. Oneironaut Jan 2016 #29
LOL! @ Trump didn't get nude (barf!). SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #89
As long as Bill Clinton or Michelle Obama are targeted by the right, I say: use the Trump photos. Paladin Jan 2016 #32
Ewww anigbrowl Jan 2016 #73
Yes, once a woman takes off her clothes in front of a camera, she becomes permanently tainted. jeff47 Jan 2016 #33
If Trump is going to call Bill Clinton a rapist, she's fair game as well. PeteSelman Jan 2016 #34
Because taking off your clothes is just like raping someone anigbrowl Jan 2016 #75
I'm saying, do what you have to do. PeteSelman Jan 2016 #114
No you're not. anigbrowl Jan 2016 #116
That's disgusting Kalidurga Jan 2016 #35
So we just keep our mouths shut while Trump and his supporters talk about Bill's bimbo eruptions? pnwmom Jan 2016 #36
Yes Kalidurga Jan 2016 #37
Yeah. Why get down into that gutter? jberryhill Jan 2016 #54
No, you can attack Trump on his own flaws anigbrowl Jan 2016 #80
The Republicans used their response of the State of the union to target Trump to no effect Johonny Jan 2016 #38
Not just internet. January 2000 cover of GQ-British edition. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #40
Nope, most of them masterbate to them book_worm Jan 2016 #43
The women, too? pnwmom Jan 2016 #44
Oh I can't ... Lochloosa Jan 2016 #46
Of course some women are into nude and semi nude women. MerryBlooms Jan 2016 #49
Trump said Hillary was "disgusting" for using the restroom during the debate. pnwmom Jan 2016 #50
It took Donald this many years to find out women use the bathroom? Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2016 #56
I get he's a pitiful excuse for a human, no need to try to convince me... MerryBlooms Jan 2016 #59
"not just an armpiece" Matariki Jan 2016 #47
What kind of dipshit pig talks like that? any republicant saturnsring Jan 2016 #51
Of all the things I could give a shit about, this isn't one of them. nt Joe the Revelator Jan 2016 #48
Bringing her up can only backfire LittleBlue Jan 2016 #57
This is really stupid. dairydog91 Jan 2016 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #60
put them on billboards next to every rightwing megachurch backing him Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2016 #70
I like the way you think. hifiguy Jan 2016 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #72
If we're told not to care 840high Jan 2016 #61
I can't believe 7 people 840high Jan 2016 #62
They love them. This is the class of people who are his supporters Beaverhausen Jan 2016 #63
Even I don't care about his wife's porn photos anigbrowl Jan 2016 #64
This thread.... aikoaiko Jan 2016 #65
I'm sure if Michelle Obama had posed the same way, the religious right would have been OK with it Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2016 #66
Shaming Trump's wife for posing nude - how liberal. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #68
Hint: hifiguy Jan 2016 #74
If the Good Lord wanted H2O Man Jan 2016 #78
"Jesus had preached against nudity, in the Bill of Rights" funny stuff panader0 Jan 2016 #83
I believe this is the same crowd that rooted for Palin... Wounded Bear Jan 2016 #79
I cared. A lot. For about 70 seconds. Then I completely stopped caring. AngryAmish Jan 2016 #81
Ted Cruz would be the one who would be most vulnerable to this.... steve2470 Jan 2016 #82
Lewinsky? nt clarice Jan 2016 #84
Who cares Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #85
The people that support Trump Texasgal Jan 2016 #88
What happens if he is the nominee? Will the religious "nut jobs" vote for him? pnwmom Jan 2016 #94
There's no "this" to ignore melman Jan 2016 #100
That's your opinion.. pnwmom Jan 2016 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #104
I don't think most people know about her background. The media seems to want pnwmom Jan 2016 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #107
He's the guy who said Hillary was disgusting -- DISGUSTING, he repeated -- pnwmom Jan 2016 #109
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #110
I think she IS representative of the religious tea party people, pnwmom Jan 2016 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #112
Close to 100 replies, and no comment on Roger Stone? Bongo Prophet Jan 2016 #91
"She would be the most glamourous first lady since Jackie Kennedy." ecstatic Jan 2016 #92
I guess it's all up for debate Reter Jan 2016 #97
k UTUSN Jan 2016 #93
Trump doesn't get support from the family values wing of the GOP Reter Jan 2016 #95
What happens if he's the nominee? I don't see anyone threatening him at this point. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #96
I have two Republican friends who both say they won't vote for him if he wins the nomination Reter Jan 2016 #98
Again, there are maybe 20, 30 people tops in the US left who still haven't gotten over porn & nudity Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #99

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
1. I was unaware of them. Was she in porn films or just photos?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:38 PM
Jan 2016

I'd ask for a link, but if I go to a site like that I'll have weird ads following me around google for the rest of my life. LOL.

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
6. What I saw were still photos, but it is possible one was a
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jan 2016

screen shot from a video.

And a couple of the photos involved another beauty.

It was a site called celeb jihad, where they also post other photos of famous people with pasts.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Why should anyone care?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jan 2016

She was a model. She did photo shoots.

Maybe the list of things women are allowed to do is longer than it used to be.

Aside from which market studies of Internet porn consistently demonstrate significantly higher consumption in the "Bible belt" states.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2801376/are-religious-people-likely-watch-porn-bible-belt-enjoys-adult-content-liberal-states-claims-study.html

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
7. My question wasn't "why" it was more "whether." You think the party of
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:52 PM
Jan 2016

Kim Davis and Ted Cruz wouldn't care about a First Lady starring in nude photos with another woman in an intimate position?

Lochloosa

(16,068 posts)
30. Or that Nancy was pregnant when they were married
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jan 2016

The Reagans were married on March 4, 1952. Their daughter Patti was born seven months later, on Oct. 21, 1952.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #7)

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
67. Normal people shouldn't care, but for the religious right and to suddenly change their tune...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jan 2016

...and be fine with the sort of thing they'd condemn a person for if there wasn't an "R" next to their name (remember how they went after Ashley Judd for doing a nude scene?) is the height of hypocrisy

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. Link please
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jan 2016

So there are pics of her engaged in sex acts? Pics of her exposed genitalia? Or are you referring to modeling pics?

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
11. No, I'm not referring to modeling pics. I think you'd have to
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:02 PM
Jan 2016

be wearing something for them to be modeling pics. One of them depicts her lying skin to skin with another woman.

There's a site called celeb jihad that turned up when I typed her name in Google images. That's where I saw them.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. No,you don't have to be wearing clothes for them to be modeling pics.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jan 2016

In any case, the onlypiconthat horrible site that is clearly melania is the one of her on donald's plane.

I think what you're doing is ugly sexist shit. Ironic

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
14. You don't think the photo of the woman
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jan 2016

with only her hand over her crotch is clearly her?

What is she modeling?

For the record, I'm a feminist who thinks porn is often demeaning to women, not liberating. But I know opinions differ.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
53. Google image search any female celebrity with the words porn or nude
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jan 2016

Fake porn shots are an Internet "thing".

A lot of them are very well done.

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
55. I wonder why Trump doesn't sue the site, if the pictures are false. It's not like
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jan 2016

he can't afford it.

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
106. Defamation. If they photoshopped her head on someone else's porn photos
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 03:27 AM
Jan 2016

or mislabeled another woman's photo with her name.

You'd think at the least his lawyer would have sent a letter demanding they take the photos down.

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
115. Yeah, spoken as the lawyer for the porn site. The lawyer for the Trumps
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

wouldn't have any trouble convincing a jury regarding some of these photos that knowingly and falsely labeling them was defamation -- damaging to her reputation.

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
90. I don't know if they are fakes.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:32 PM
Jan 2016

They didn't just show up recently. They've been around for years now, long before this election cycle. A number of sites ran them quite a few years back. There was discussion about them back then.

They weren't "porn" pics but they would be considered racy since they included full frontal with another female.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
76. You don't get these images just by searching her name
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:25 PM
Jan 2016

You have to specifically add "nude" to your search. Weird that you would do that and then act all pearl clutchy about it.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
25. "They're on the Internet identified as her"
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jan 2016

So were some vintage porn pics that wingnuts believed looked something like Ann Dunham.

Lochloosa

(16,068 posts)
31. I agree cali. They are far from "porn" pics. Pick up any Cosmo and you'll see the same type of pic
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jan 2016

DebbieCDC

(2,543 posts)
12. Going on what I presume to be the intelligence level of the average male Trumpenstein supporter
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jan 2016

My guess is their reaction would be along the lines of "Gawd damn....the Donald's got a porno star wife? Geeesh, if I vote for him maybe I'LL get a porn star too!!!"

I'm only half joking.

These porn shots of the latest Mrs. Trump have been all over the Internet forever. The Trumpenstein camp is hoping they don't get wide(r) circulation before any critical southern BibleBelt primaries.

randr

(12,414 posts)
16. If I could I would show up at a Trump rally
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jan 2016

waving a large poster of our possible First Lady in all her nudity, and I use that phrase sarcastically.
Something to make the kids proud of their country--NOT.

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
22. Can you imagine their reaction if a Democratic First Lady had that background?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016

So I guess you're in the "we're better than that" camp -- even if he wins the election based in part on people who wouldn't vote for him if they knew.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
26. No, I am in the "I don't give a shit
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jan 2016

about what other people do as long as it's harmless to others" camp.

I don't and wouldn't give a single hoot one way or the other no matter if it's Il Douche or any other candidate. What about that is difficult to comprehend?

Staph

(6,253 posts)
42. Michelle Obama gets slammed by Republicans
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:58 PM
Jan 2016

simply for wearing sleeveless dresses.

Melania might be able to get away with nude photos, but a Democratic candidate or candidate's wife would be denounced as the Whore of Babylon!


MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
20. I'm all for labeling Trump a tacky bastard without slut shaming his wife…
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jan 2016

Right now, he's their problem, not ours.

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
23. What if he's their candidate in the General?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016

And he's attacking the spouse of our candidate?

Which he will, no matter who it is.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
28. Two wrongs don't make a right…
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jan 2016

I'm quite sure that he'll stoop to attacking our eventual nominee's family. The man is a straight up asshole.

But I still wouldn't slut shame his wife. It's so prudishly American. I've always hated that shit.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
69. Id just like these rightwing prudes to go on records as to why they're suddenly so open minded
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jan 2016

If Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton had done photos like that, it's all we'd hear about for decades

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
24. They don't care about a lot of OTHER things about ol' Delirium Tremens over there
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jan 2016

They don't care his business has gone bankrupt four times.

Or that they're Good Christian Men and Women supporting a man who's made SERIOUS bank selling gambling and alcohol. (And how many porn channels are on your hotels' television systems, Donald?)

Or that he makes about 40 percent of his income selling his name, and we don't know everyone he's sold it to. Some of them are probably pretty unsavory.

And let's not forget the hotel industry is a YOOGE employer of illegal immigrants. Has anyone bothered to drag The Donald's historical personnel records across e-Verify?

Compared to all the REAL atrocities Trump has perpetrated, whether his wife has internet porn photos is pretty damn low. Besides, wives of Republican candidates are off limits to criticism...remember, we weren't supposed to mention Cindy McCain is the biggest beer distributor in Arizona. (However, this little historical fact is, I believe, the real reason he inflicted Sarah Palin on the world: the Bible Thumpers promised to stay home on election day if McCain didn't put a fundamentalist Christian on his ticket, and they chose Palin.) We also weren't supposed to mention that Saint Ronnie dumped his first wife for Nancy because Nancy was so proficient at performing oral sex. But by DAMN did we hear all about the fucking Rose Law Firm, now didn't we?

Response to jmowreader (Reply #24)

Oneironaut

(5,524 posts)
29. Don't care.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:39 PM
Jan 2016

Not a fair or relevant issue.

1 - Trump didn't get nude (barf!)

2 -Not relevant to issues or politics. That kind of attack would be pretty desperate.

Paladin

(28,272 posts)
32. As long as Bill Clinton or Michelle Obama are targeted by the right, I say: use the Trump photos.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jan 2016

None of this "We're better than they are" crap. Not at this stage in the game.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
73. Ewww
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jan 2016

If you want to talk the talk you have to follow up by walking the walk, and that means not engaging in pointless personal attacks. I don't think anyone should be attacked for having engaged in sex work, and I have a correspondingly low opinion of people who engage in such attacks. Since that group now appears to include you, I'm going to be much less receptive to anything you have to say in the future because you have shown yourself to be someone who is comfortable with degrading others for your own advantage.

See how that works?

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
34. If Trump is going to call Bill Clinton a rapist, she's fair game as well.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jan 2016

Not just her but all of his foreign born, tossed aside for the younger model, cheated on wives.

This isn't tiddlywinks.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
75. Because taking off your clothes is just like raping someone
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jan 2016

Incidentally I don't believe Trump's allegations about Bill Clinton are well-founded, and in any case I have no wish to go emulating Donald Trump in any respect whatsoever. But you're saying that because Trump has accused Bill Clinton of a crime, it's OK to accuse Trump's wife of something that's...not a crime.

Stop looking for an excuse to engage in hateful behavior.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
114. I'm saying, do what you have to do.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jan 2016

Accuse him of being a cheater, wife abuser and rapist. What do you think they would do if Michelle Obama was posing nude? If Liz Warren had. So on and so forth.

Taking the high road against a sleazeball like this isn't an option.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
116. No you're not.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 03:36 PM
Jan 2016

You said his wife is fair game, now you're saying something different. I don't give a fuck what they would say if Michelle Obama or any other Democratic politician had posed nude; why would I want to imitate a bunch of hateful misogynists?

Taking the high road against a sleazeball like this isn't an option.


I have no problem with anyone attacking Trump. I have a problem with attacking his wife over this completely non-political past choice to pose for nude photographs and using him as justification. You should take a long hard look at yourself.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
35. That's disgusting
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jan 2016

We don't need to point fingers like that. It is something Republicons do to try to shame women for doing whatever they do whether it is right wrong or neutral. Now if she says something about how other women who do the same thing are slutty then go ahead slam her do whatever to her for being a hypocrite. In that case she brought it on herself.

And no if we are going to say that women should be able to pose nude and not have people think they are bad people for doing that we can't attack any woman on the issue even if she is married to a racist sexist jerk.

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
36. So we just keep our mouths shut while Trump and his supporters talk about Bill's bimbo eruptions?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jan 2016

And Trump criticizes Hillary for "enabling" them?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
37. Yes
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jan 2016

Bill brought that on himself by cheating. And in at least one case he admitted by payment guilt of sexual abuse. A woman posing nude has neither hurt her partner if she has been fully honest with her partner nor has she hurt anyone else. It's not illegal and she didn't use her social position to abuse someone.

As for Hillary being an enabler she may have been she probably wasn't. I would need to see some hard and real evidence she looked the other way when it became apparent Pres Clinton had a problem with boundries.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
80. No, you can attack Trump on his own flaws
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jan 2016

As opposed to going after his wife for the completely legal behavior of showing off her own body for money, which I don't think is going to attract a single vote, but is more likely to reduce turnout among more casual voters.

Johonny

(20,888 posts)
38. The Republicans used their response of the State of the union to target Trump to no effect
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jan 2016

nothing Trump does seems to sway his supporters against him. We can assume the 30-40 percent that want to vote for Trump are going to vote for him no matter if doing so exposes every hypocritical value they have. They just love the idea that Trump is somehow... a good candidate. The fact he isn't will never reach him. So no they don't care about this or anything or anyone.

MerryBlooms

(11,771 posts)
49. Of course some women are into nude and semi nude women.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jan 2016

jfc.

Was your OP alerted on?

I get you're emotionally invested in the Clinton campaign, but honestly, do you think trying to shame tRump's wife is a way to get Clinton elected?

Concentrate on Clinton's positive attributes. For crying out loud, stay away from dragging out the nasty old MRA women shaming card.

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
50. Trump said Hillary was "disgusting" for using the restroom during the debate.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jan 2016

To put this into perspective.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
56. It took Donald this many years to find out women use the bathroom?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jan 2016

And Bernie said that Trump must have a very unusual relationship with his wife to not know that.

I swear, the depths of ignorance of these Republican men about women and their bodily functions is staggering. Apparently it's not just pregnancy and reproduction either, but elimination.

I know there are some macho bastards out there that don't think people should have to take bathroom breaks or lunch breaks. They should just work themselves into exhaustion and low blood sugar attacks. I know, I've worked for a few judges that had that attitude.

I worked for one judge that I had to BEG for a lunch break. We were in the middle of a hearing before the bench (no jury). He finally backed down when I gave him my doctor's name and phone number and told him I would get dizzy and pass out if I didn't eat lunch, and I'd be happy for him to call my doctor and talk to him about my blood sugar. Turned out that later, this judge worked his regular court reporter so hard he killed her from overwork. She died of respiratory failure at the age of 40.


MerryBlooms

(11,771 posts)
59. I get he's a pitiful excuse for a human, no need to try to convince me...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

but there's no need for us to lower ourselves to his level. We're way better than that. And, we can win without that nastiness.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
57. Bringing her up can only backfire
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jan 2016

He looks like an old scrotum with a comb over. Having a wife that good looking only highlights his wealth.

Might as well run ads labelling him a "big shot celebrity" while they're at it. The family values crowd is coalescing around Carson, Cruz and Rubio.

dairydog91

(951 posts)
58. This is really stupid.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jan 2016

1. I don't think Trump has ever been a "family values" candidate. The guy has a well-known appetite for trophy wives.
2. His core power base is not evangelicals. That would be Cruz's power base. Trumpkins are more likely to admire this kind of thing than be disgusted by it.
3. Really, now we're going after his wife for having nudes? That's prudish and controlling. She was a model. Nude photos aren't particularly surprising in that line of work.
4. To the extent that Trump is tapping into a vein of American fascist sentiment, the trophy wife angle probably helps him. Fascism often makes a cult of aggressive masculinity; having a gorgeous younger wife can be a way of demonstrating said quality.

Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Reply #70)

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
64. Even I don't care about his wife's porn photos
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jan 2016

While I loathe Donald Trump I've never believed in attacking spouses or children for being related to candidates I don't favor, and I don't believe in slut-shaming either. I have a bunch of friends who are current or former sex workers and I think slut-shaming is just plain old misogyny in slightly different packaging.

Edited to add that of course Trump's supporters are likely being wildly inconsistent and would scream long and loud about the immorality of it all if the situation were reversed and a Democratic candidate or candidate's spouse had a background in adult entertainment. But since I already thought those people were hypocritical idiots to begin with I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
66. I'm sure if Michelle Obama had posed the same way, the religious right would have been OK with it
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:10 PM
Jan 2016

Trump, of course, found Jeebus, so now the prudes of the faith healing con artist movement like Kenneth Copeland and Jan crouch are down with him and his mail order bondage porn bride

H2O Man

(73,605 posts)
78. If the Good Lord wanted
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:27 PM
Jan 2016

people to be naked, we would not be born fully dressed. God hates nudity. Jesus had preached against nudity, in the Bill of Rights, because it is sinful. Indeed, it is the devil himself that attempts to tempt us with human body parts. For example, there is nothing more offensive than breast-feeding. Anyone who sucks upon nipples and/or bottles is not to be trusted.

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
79. I believe this is the same crowd that rooted for Palin...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jan 2016

as the first candidate for P/VP that they would "do."

Asking if the Trumplodytes would have any class about things like this is an exercise in futility. They don't have any class that I can detect. 'Glamour' is hardly the primary requisite for first lady of the US.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
81. I cared. A lot. For about 70 seconds. Then I completely stopped caring.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jan 2016

I might care again first thing in the morning, tho.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
82. Ted Cruz would be the one who would be most vulnerable to this....
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:36 PM
Jan 2016

because he is pandering directly to the evangelical Christians. That being said, I still don't think Democrats or anyone should adopt that line of attack.

Texasgal

(17,047 posts)
88. The people that support Trump
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:06 PM
Jan 2016

don't give a shit about his wife's photos. Pics of Melania are the last thing they care about. I think alot of people are confused about Trumps base. They are not Christian nutjobs, they are just stupid bigots!

Myself, I can think about a thousand more reasons to be anti-trump and it has nothing to do with his wife or her pictures.

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
94. What happens if he is the nominee? Will the religious "nut jobs" vote for him?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jan 2016

Will the Kim Davis's just ignore this and vote for him anyway?

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
101. That's your opinion..
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jan 2016

Like many feminists, I think the porn industry is demeaning to women and contributes to their subjugation. She came from a well-off family and she had alternatives.

I don't think we should be banning porn, but I also don't think we should be glamorizing the industry -- which would happen if Melania were First Lady and her background were widely known.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #101)

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
105. I don't think most people know about her background. The media seems to want
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 03:26 AM
Jan 2016

to portray her as the reincarnation of Jackie O.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #105)

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
109. He's the guy who said Hillary was disgusting -- DISGUSTING, he repeated --
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 05:16 AM
Jan 2016

because she went to the restroom during the debate.

And he said a woman involved in a lawsuit deposition was disgusting because she asked to be excused to nurse a baby.

And he was disgusted by a female newscaster's bodily fluids as well.

So he isn't exactly puritanical, I suppose. He's just very disgusted by women's bodies.

But if he's the nominee -- and he could be -- then what are the Kim Davis's going to do? Will they vote for him as the lesser of two evils even if they know about his wife?

Response to pnwmom (Reply #109)

pnwmom

(108,992 posts)
111. I think she IS representative of the religious tea party people,
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 06:09 AM
Jan 2016

and anyone who's the nominee will need their vote.

I do care about how these people think because their votes count as much as mine do.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #111)

Bongo Prophet

(2,651 posts)
91. Close to 100 replies, and no comment on Roger Stone?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:32 PM
Jan 2016

the 'classiest' GOP Operative and ratfucker supreme?

This is not the DU of yore, anymore.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
92. "She would be the most glamourous first lady since Jackie Kennedy."
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jan 2016

Don't they mean since Michelle Obama, who is currently the most glamorous first lady since Jackie Kennedy?

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
97. I guess it's all up for debate
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:04 AM
Jan 2016

I always thought Nancy was very glamorous and beautiful for her age. The next three after her not so much. Glamor returned with Michelle, however.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
95. Trump doesn't get support from the family values wing of the GOP
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jan 2016

He's soft on abortion and gay rights (he never talks about it), and has a potty mouth. Cruz, Huck, and Carson get those votes.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
98. I have two Republican friends who both say they won't vote for him if he wins the nomination
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jan 2016

Friend number 1 is a regular Republican, likes Bush, Paul Ryan, Romney, etc. He's conservative, but doesn't hate Muslims or Mexicans at all. He's not a racist. He's going for Christie, but may have to settle for Rubio.

Friend number 2 is a hard-core tea bagger. He thinks Trump is Bill Clinton's master plan to get his wife elected. He gave me quotes proving Trump was not conservative at all on social issues just a few years ago. His biggest idol is Pat Buchanan, and he showed me a video where Trump blasts him in 2000 for being a right-wing extremist. He showed me where Trump did indeed say gay marriage is now settled law. He's going for Rand Paul, but is about to switch to Cruz because Paul is not even in the debate now.

Needless to say, neither would vote for Trump. Friend 1 probably stays home. Friend 2 would vote his beloved Constitution Party.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
99. Again, there are maybe 20, 30 people tops in the US left who still haven't gotten over porn & nudity
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 01:03 AM
Jan 2016

And if they're Republicans, odds are they're way more panicked about im'grnts, mex'cans and mus'lins than they are about Melania trump in some decades old softcore photo shoot with another woman.

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