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FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 03:13 PM Jan 2016

Six in hospital after French pain relief drug trial goes wrong

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28782-six-in-hospital-after-french-pain-relief-drug-trial-goes-wrong/?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=SOC&utm_campaign=hoot&cmpid=SOC|NSNS|2016-GLOBAL-hoot



Six people have been hospitalised after a drug trial went terribly wrong at the Pontchaillou Hospital in Rennes in France. One has been declared brain-dead, and four others are in critical condition. Ninety participants in the trial have been asked to contact the hospital.

According to preliminary reports, the trial was of a drug aimed at inhibiting the brain enzyme that degrades endogenous cannabinoids, chemicals produced naturally by the brain that resemble the active compounds in cannabis.

The drug is being developed by Portuguese firm Bial. It was a “phase one” trial, in which a new drug that has been tested in animals is tested for the first time in humans. The idea is to make sure it is safe, and to measure its effects. Usually a range of relatively low doses are used in such trials.

In a press conference on Friday afternoon, French health minister Marisol Touraine said the drug “does not contain cannabis or any derivative of cannabis.” Only people who had been given repeated doses of the drug were affected. Five of six men between the ages of 28 and 49 started developing the same neurological symptoms on 10 January, after receiving their first dose of the drug on 7 January.

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Sometimes I question how long it takes for the FDA to approve a drug, but stories like this make me glad there is some government oversight (not that mistakes still slip through)
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Six in hospital after French pain relief drug trial goes wrong (Original Post) FLPanhandle Jan 2016 OP
1 is brain dead. And this is why there is animal and human testing. LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #1
How can there not be animal or human testing? woodsprite Jan 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #5
They can use that as preliminary testing, but there will always be a first human. woodsprite Jan 2016 #7
Huh? GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #4
Woudn't it be easier to just let pain sufferers use marijuana and cannabis oil to deal tblue37 Jan 2016 #3
Big Pharma cannot make $$ from naturally occurring drugs. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2016 #6
the enzyme is FAAH greymattermom Jan 2016 #8
Remember what happened in the ephemeral trial? AngryAmish Jan 2016 #9

woodsprite

(11,927 posts)
2. How can there not be animal or human testing?
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 04:25 PM
Jan 2016

No matter what vetting is done before hand, the first time it's used on a human is the equivalent to human testing. That's why we came up with animal testing in the first place - to try to make it the least damaging to humans as possible.

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woodsprite

(11,927 posts)
7. They can use that as preliminary testing, but there will always be a first human.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jan 2016

And they won't know all the possible issues until whatever they've created is used by a living being. Until then, it's an educated guess as to how anything effects living beings.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
3. Woudn't it be easier to just let pain sufferers use marijuana and cannabis oil to deal
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jan 2016

with chronic pain than to try to develop drugs that do the same thing marijuana does, but with the risk of serious or lethal side effects?

A huge, centuries (even millenia) long drug trial has already been done, and marijuana has been proven safer and more effective even than aspirin, and certainly more than prescription opioid pain relievers.

Someone once said that if aspirin were discovered today it would be recognized as a miracle drug. Probably it would by msny--but the government would either make it illegal and attach severe penalties to its use or would make it prescription only.

If mj were not so easily grown, and if it had not already been "discovered" by millions of ordinary people, it would probably be an expensive prescription drug and used for a lot of different conditions.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. Big Pharma cannot make $$ from naturally occurring drugs.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 05:34 PM
Jan 2016

They have been focused on taking nature's plants and extracting the ingredient they think will make an effective drug.
Problem is, as has been shown with pot, natural plants have dozens of chemicals which interact with one another to produce the desired effect.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
8. the enzyme is FAAH
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jan 2016

and it is widely expressed and regulated by estrogen. Sometimes I think they should just read the literature a little more carefully before designing these studies.

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