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Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:40 PM Jan 2016

Watch out for these Veterans' ''fundraisers.''

with an extremely smooth,'' two tiered rap, 'Steve' and his partner tried to get me to donate via credit card, over the phone. I told them I don't do that, and I'd send a check. They didn't like that, but accepted. After a five second search, I decided to send their return envelope back with no check, but this website's review of their operation:

http://www.military-money-matters.com/foundation-for-american-veterans.html#axzz3xMj954Yc


According to a Charity Navigator report in 2005, the Foundation for American Veterans used just 6 cents of every dollar raised for services for veterans.

Despite this lack of transparency with regard to their financial information, we were able to locate a form filed by the Foundation for American Veterans, Inc. with the Secretary of State for the State of Washington (charities must register in each state in which they intend to solicit donations). According to the information filed with Washington State, for the fiscal year ending December 31, 2007, the organization had revenue of $5,263,927, and spent $528,196 on program services out of total expenses of $5,118,508.

In other words, for FY 2007, the Foundation for American Veterans devoted 11% of its total expenses to program services for veterans.

The form did not break down those expenses, but we think it would be safe to say that a large percentage went to professional fund raisers. It did list Associated Community Services as a paid fundraiser organization.

When we checked that organization's Commercial Fundraiser Profile Report with the Washington Secretary of State, we learned that in the fiscal year ending December 31, 2008, Associated Community Services (ACS)


reported that it raised $1,264,583 in contributions, and of that amount, only $480,465 went to the charity client for whom the funds were raised. In other words, the charity got 38% of the money raised, and the fund raising organization kept the other 62% as its fee
.

This is so common, and so nauseating. I've gotten calls by them every day for more than a week, with more than one call on several days. I usually ignore, but this time I was curious and picked up. I'm glad I did.

BTW, there's a long list of outraged responses that follows the excerpt. Scroll down and read a few.......just infuriating.

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Watch out for these Veterans' ''fundraisers.'' (Original Post) Gabi Hayes Jan 2016 OP
Know them well. malokvale77 Jan 2016 #1
From another link WRT similar scams: Gabi Hayes Jan 2016 #2
Political PACs do the same thing. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2016 #3
This is why we can never trust a politician that says Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #4
Like the scam Hannity and shit your pants sorefeet Jan 2016 #5
Never, ever donate to any charity in response to a phone solicitation. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #6

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
1. Know them well.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:51 PM
Jan 2016

I'm sickened by the scumbags that enrich themselves off the backs of those that actually serve.

F@#$king low life creeps.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
2. From another link WRT similar scams:
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.fakewarriors.org/phonies/phonies258.htm

ever heard of Mitch Gold? probably not, but he got rich running scams like the following.....


Sound-alike charities:

When they hear the words "American veterans," many people reach for their checkbooks. That helps explain why Mitch Gold and several associates created charities whose names started with that magic phrase. Here are some examples:

American Veterans Assistance Council: A Gold client from mid-1988 through the early '90s, it was formed by Gold's business partner and headed by Gold's brother-in-law.

American Veterans Assistance Foundation: A business name for Emmanuel Outreach Ministries, created in 2000 when Adam Cohen, a Gold subcontractor and older brother of Gold's top protégé, J.P. Cohen, started telemarketing for the Fullerton ministry.

American Veterans Coalition: Originally a business name for the Abundant Life Foundation, a Gold client starting in 1999; incorporated 2002 in Washington state. Headed by Gig Harbor, Wash., charity entrepreneur Robert M. Friend Jr.

American Veterans Council: A business name beginning in 1999 for Timothy Lyons' Costa Mesa fundraising business. Controlled by Gabriel Sanchez. Sanchez was a former Gold client, and Lyons was a onetime Gold subcontractor. Both men are serving 15-year prison sentences for fraud.

American Veterans Help Fund: A business name for Gabriel Sanchez's First Church of Life in Huntington Beach, formed in 1994. Sanchez also controlled the U.S. Veterans League.

American Veterans Network: A business name since 1994 for Shiloh International Ministries in La Verne, a longtime Gold client.

American Veterans Relief Foundation: Incorporated in 2001 in Santa Ana by Michael Kowalsky, a former Gold client. Managed until mid-2005 by onetime Gold aide and ex-felon Joe Shambaugh.

American Veterans Relief Fund: A Gold client in the late 1990s. Headed by Dallas resident Marvin Cherna, who was later convicted of mail fraud for looting the charity.

American War Veterans: A business name of Regular American Veterans, a Gold client in the late 1990s.

Sources: Internal Revenue Service, Federal Trade Commission v. Gold, U.S. v. Gold, The Register

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Political PACs do the same thing.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jan 2016

Another reason the answering machine gets all the calls first.
The scamming calls roll in at the rate of 10 or more a day now.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
4. This is why we can never trust a politician that says
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:03 PM
Jan 2016

charities are better at supporting the needs of the people over government programs.

It is far too easy to set up and maintain a total scam "charity" operation.

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
5. Like the scam Hannity and shit your pants
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jan 2016

Nugent had going with operation Freedom concerts. Scum bags got no shame. What ever it takes to make a buck.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. Never, ever donate to any charity in response to a phone solicitation.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:24 PM
Jan 2016

The paid solicitors typically keep 80% of amounts donated as their fee. Research charities that do work that is important to you and donate directly to the charity.

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