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It's colder than a well-digger's arse here in Minnesota. (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2016 OP
No climate change in sight, huh Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #1
It's Minnesota. We don't have climate change in January. MineralMan Jan 2016 #3
Weather has little to nothing to do with climate. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #8
Climate change has everything to do with the weather. Rex Jan 2016 #9
Our two statements have no conflict. Weather events can not be shown to be linked to Climate Change JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #11
The posters point was more along the lines of my claim and has nothing to do with yours Rex Jan 2016 #12
The poster is flat out wrong in their implication. JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #13
'No more climate change in site' ,has a very specific meaning and nothing to do with your reply. Rex Jan 2016 #14
I am not confused. I am correcting inaccuracies in thought processes. You are welcome. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #15
No you are welcome, anytime really. Rex Jan 2016 #16
You may find this helpful. Weather and Climate are very different things JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #18
Human caused warming and climate chaos is a fact. ananda Jan 2016 #24
Nowhere have I disputed that.n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #25
He got the posters meaning wrong, but that is okay it happens. Rex Jan 2016 #34
Has nothing to do with the posters comment, but thanks anyway. Rex Jan 2016 #33
... lpbk2713 Jan 2016 #31
They will go to their grave denying climate change. Rex Jan 2016 #10
I just called my dear friend who lives approx. 60 miles south of Int. Falls. She said it was -28. B Calm Jan 2016 #2
That's about the wind chill here in St. Paul. Brrr! MineralMan Jan 2016 #4
I asked her if it was wind chill and she said no it was the actual temperature. You bet, that B Calm Jan 2016 #6
Upstairs... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #5
You wanted seasons, didn't you? Downwinder Jan 2016 #7
I'm sitting up here in northwest Montana Maru Kitteh Jan 2016 #17
''diamonds on my windshield'' Gabi Hayes Jan 2016 #19
That is the best pic this huy could come up with? Hold a cig? Classy! nt Logical Jan 2016 #22
Was in the -20s this morning here in Fargo. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #20
Meh. hifiguy Jan 2016 #21
Jeebers, I remember that! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #26
That's my benchmark for REALLY cold. hifiguy Jan 2016 #27
I was a college student in December '83 in St. Cloud. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #29
I was a junior at the U of M Twin Cities that winter. hifiguy Jan 2016 #30
When I lived at home, we plugged our cars Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #32
Strange 'winter' in NH! Only a trace of snow on the ground elias49 Jan 2016 #23
Welcome to January in Minnesota sarisataka Jan 2016 #28
Lewis Black on Minnesota bluedigger Jan 2016 #35
Nice and cold down here in Iowa too. 47of74 Jan 2016 #36

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
3. It's Minnesota. We don't have climate change in January.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jan 2016

We have below zero weather. Weather does not equal climate. It never has.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
11. Our two statements have no conflict. Weather events can not be shown to be linked to Climate Change
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jan 2016

However, it is true that climate change will ultimately affect weather.

It is a mistake to extrapolate any individual weather events into a statement on climate change.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. The posters point was more along the lines of my claim and has nothing to do with yours
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jan 2016

is my point. They did not say climate, they said climate change. There is a difference.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
13. The poster is flat out wrong in their implication.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jan 2016

Climate change relates to climate, I fail to see the problem in pointing out that weather events can not be extrapolated to general statements about climate, nor about climate change.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. 'No more climate change in site' ,has a very specific meaning and nothing to do with your reply.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jan 2016

You posted the opposite of what they meant, just clearing that up for you since you seemed confused by their statement.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. No you are welcome, anytime really.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jan 2016

I like to clear up general confusion, no problem you can take it I am sure of that.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
33. Has nothing to do with the posters comment, but thanks anyway.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jan 2016

Climate change causes weather patterns to change, you should read about it sometimes fascinating material.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. They will go to their grave denying climate change.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jan 2016

Republicans would all rather let us freeze to death, then admit to any wrongness on their part. However ain't that the crux of it all with the GOP - they NEVER admit to being wrong on anything.

Stuck in stupid.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
6. I asked her if it was wind chill and she said no it was the actual temperature. You bet, that
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jan 2016

is colder than a well diggers ass!

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
17. I'm sitting up here in northwest Montana
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jan 2016

right up by the Canadian border, all bummed out because I planned to do some cross-country skiing today but it's too warm. We had a cute little layer of powder yesterday but now it's all a big slushy mess. It's 39 degrees outside and our projected highs for the next 16 days range from 35 to 41 with mostly rain/snow mixture predicted every day.

I'm happy for the precipitation after the hideous fire season we had last year but damn. It's January. I would like to ski.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
21. Meh.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jan 2016

Back in December 1983 it didn't even get above zero for two solid weeks and bottomed out the night before Xmas eve with a nice, balmy 34 below. With wind chills of 86 below. That was one night you really did need to bring in the brass monkeys.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
26. Jeebers, I remember that!
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:04 PM
Jan 2016

There were also a few winters in the '70s when the brass monkeys would have suffered from serious shrinkage. I don't remember what year it was but I distinctly recall being out one evening with friends when it was somewhere approaching -30 and we were just fucking dying just walking from the car to the concert hall. People who live in warmer climates probably have never experienced air that actually makes your face hurt.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
27. That's my benchmark for REALLY cold.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jan 2016

Your face hurts by the time you've walked half a block outside.

The only sensible thing to do when it's that farking cold is to go back inside, pop a bottle of wine, start cooking an empty-the-fridge pot of curry that makes the house smell great for a few hours, grab the cat and watch a movie.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
29. I was a college student in December '83 in St. Cloud.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jan 2016

The Monday of that week it got down to 41° below and my car actually started. By Thursday when it was time head home for Christmas, nope (even though I started it and warmed it up twice a day.) I called for a wrecker with a generator to jump start the car. That's what he did. He wrecked the starter. I ended up removing the battery and kept it hooked up to a trickle charger in my dorm room. If I needed to go somewhere and I could not find somebody to give me a ride to the long-term parking lot, I carried the battery ten blocks and hooked it up. Modern cars would go haywire if you treated them like that.

That was aong winter. I didn't have the $200 for a new starter.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
30. I was a junior at the U of M Twin Cities that winter.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

Fortunately my late dad somehow came into possession of a gargantuan battery charger that he mounted in the garage. The thing was the size of a case of beer in bottles and could charge 20 heavy-equipment batteries simultaneously. Slapped it on at a slow trickle every time I drove into the garage for several weeks and the car always started.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
32. When I lived at home, we plugged our cars
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jan 2016

in and kept the oil warm with block chargers. I don't even think that's a thing anymore.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
23. Strange 'winter' in NH! Only a trace of snow on the ground
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jan 2016

and temperatures have been relatively mild. 30s during the day, teens and 20s at night.

The absence of snow is very unusual. Frequently, we get a good storm or 2 by Thanksgiving.
There was a mass roosting of red-winged blackbirds in a setback along the Ct River. THAT is unprecedented.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
36. Nice and cold down here in Iowa too.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 08:14 PM
Jan 2016

There's a wind chill warning out for most of Iowa tonight.

This morning I went out and this is what my car reported;



And that was before any wind chill.

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