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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGillian Anderson offered HALF of male co-star's pay for X-files revival.
As if her role wasn't as critical to the success of the series as David Duchovny's.
After three years of doing the first series, Anderson had finally negotiated an equal salary with her co-star, but when the proposal for the X-files revival came around, they were AGAIN only offering her half of what they were offering Duchovny.
(And when she started the original series, they asked her never to stand side-by-side with him -- but a few steps back.)
http://www.people.com/article/gillian-anderson-offered-half-david-duchovny-salary-x-files
It was shocking to me, given all the work that I had done in the past to get us to be paid fairly. I worked really hard toward that and finally got somewhere with it," Anderson tells The Daily Beast of picking up a battle from when the sci-fi series originally aired in the '90s.
"Even in interviews in the last few years, people have said to me, 'I can't believe that happened, how did you feel about it, that is insane.' And my response always was, 'That was then, this is now.' And then it happened again! I don't even know what to say about it," she adds. "It is ... sad. It is sad."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/22/gillian-anderson-i-was-offered-half-duchovny-s-pay-for-the-x-files-revival.html
Anderson and Duchovnys legendarily potent onscreen pairingrife with sexual tension yet ambiguous enough that a simple embrace could leave fans swooning for dayshas been the object of heated obsession for decades, ever since The X-Files, a show that transformed serialized TV and elevated the potential of genre storytelling, premiered in 1993.
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But while Scully asserted her authority at every turn, Anderson found herself fighting just to stand on (literal) equal ground with her male co-star. The studio initially required Anderson to stand a few feet behind her male partner on camera, careful never to step side-by-side with him. And it took three years before Anderson finally closed the wage gap between her pay and Duchovnys, having become fed up with accepting less than equal pay for equal work.
I can only imagine that at the beginning, they wanted me to be the sidekick, Anderson says of Foxs curious no-equal-footing rule. Or that, somehow, maybe it was enough of a change just to see a woman having this kind of intellectual repartee with a man on camera, and surely the audience couldnt deal with actually seeing them walk side by side!
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The work Anderson put into securing equal pay back in the 90s seemingly came undone when it came time to negotiate pay for this years event series. Once again, Anderson was being offered half of what they would pay Duchovny.
Im surprised that more [interviewers] havent brought that up because its the truth, Anderson says of the pay disparity, first disclosed in the Hollywood Reporter. Especially in this climate of women talking about the reality of [unequal pay] in this business, I think its important that it gets heard and voiced. It was shocking to me, given all the work that I had done in the past to get us to be paid fairly. I worked really hard toward that and finally got somewhere with it.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)She was paid equally.
Snow Leopard
(348 posts)That is how negotiations work.
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)and offered Duchovny half of what they had offered her?
Doubtful.
Snow Leopard
(348 posts)It is his business to decide if enough or to pass on it. You wouldn't have people freaking out about it I'm sure.
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)Snow Leopard
(348 posts)No one would care if he were paid equally. Fair is not the same as equal btw.
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)for the success of a show.
But that would be debatable in this case
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)kcr
(15,320 posts)But only someone who's trolling or has never seen the show would think it's worth debating.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Frisco Hillboy
(16 posts)dogman
(6,073 posts)I don't know her financial situation, I would expect that would affect her decision. Hope she can afford to tell them to shove it.
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)the sexual discrimination is there, that they thought they had a chance of getting away with that offer.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)The show only went off the air because David quit. Naturally, he has more leverage.
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)But of course you would disagree.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)pnwmom
(109,015 posts)more than he did and would do it, no matter what the salary was.
Which was obviously wrong. She insisted on equity and she got it. He had no more leverage than she did.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)What we do know is that Anderson would have been willing to continue working before Duchovny quit. that is leverage. Pretty simple.
I am not assuming anything.
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)after her successes in the intervening years.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Your statement reads "Naturally, the motorcycle can't function without the front wheel." Nor can it function without the back wheel either.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)pnwmom
(109,015 posts)even though she was finally getting parity during the original series.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)zazen
(2,978 posts)Good for her.
It is astonishing they thought they could get away with this today. Hopefully this sort of shaming attention will motivate producers to be a little less overtly sexist. I don't expect much but at least if they know an angry populace is watching they'll won't be so brazen.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Amazing.
TacoD
(581 posts)newfie11
(8,159 posts)Come on cheapskates pay her the same damn wage as David😡😡😡😡😡😡
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Naturally, he has more leverage when negotiating for a return appearance on the show.
Now tell me, with that in mind, should she be compensated the same as Duchovny?
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)She is coming off a critically acclaimed role in Hannibal. I agree the plug should have been pulled when Duchovny bowed out, but I think you could make the same argument for Anderson. The show worked because of the chemistry between them. The show's producers made a mistake romantically involving them, but I think most series should end at about 5 years anyway. I would have a difficult time finding very many shows of this type that had good seasons past the first five.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)I agree 2x pay seems high, but I don't know how the negotiations went: was he aggressively pursued? We don't know.
They're both critically acclaimed actors; her coming off Hannibal only means something if she had another offer lined up to negotiate on the back of.
rockfordfile
(8,708 posts)FSogol
(45,562 posts)Take the marbles out of your mouth, Dave
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)than he was.
She obviously wasn't, because she turned down their pathetic offer and insisted on parity.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)zazen
(2,978 posts)He's got a longer shelf life by definition, in this sexist ageist world, than she does.
He could afford to take more risks and leave a highly successful show. Turns out she's one of the comparatively few females who still has options in her 40s (god forbid ensuing decades) and did well afterward, but that factor alone takes this out of some mythical land of gender-neutral market negotiations.
You don't get to just take a snapshot of two people at a given point in time to make a comparison of their offers and ignore the systemic sexism and racism in which they're operating.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)The producers of the show are the ones who make employment offers. They in fact do take a snapshot of the two at the current time. That's how free markets work.
zazen
(2,978 posts)They're enforced by a contractual and regulatory framework determined by government policy that allows certain parts to be "free" or invisible while regulating other parts that favor dominant interests.
The illusion of the invisible hand of the free market is one of the best propaganda techniques of neoclassical economics and late-stage capitalism.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)zazen
(2,978 posts)So, if power operates through personal intimidation, internalization of shame and modesty expectations on the part of females through years of conditioning, reduction of opportunities outside the bartering transaction through "natural" means so that woman has to accept less--then what you do is "not" regulate that transaction.
Voila! Women "freely" accept less because they don't "negotiate well," "lean in," whatever. It's the woman's fault. It's the free hand. It's natural.
And Actor's Equity does set some terms of barter.
I'm done too. Have a good night.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Not sure how you can have the X Files without Scully. Wouldn't work. She should definitely be compensated equally on that basis alone.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)article it indicates she was paid the same so apparently the answer is yes she should be.
Rex
(65,616 posts)They don't really have a choice, the show was about Scully and Mulder.
kcr
(15,320 posts)How do you figure her worth on the show doesn't factor?
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)crazy. I never knew they used to have her stand behind Mulder.
MowCowWhoHow III
(2,103 posts)Whoever jeopardized the revival by making Gillian this derisory pay offer should be scheduled for abduction asap.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I thought Anderson was the star of the show.
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)kind of weak, by comparison.
Maybe only because hers was so strong.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)If the show was about him and not some weird stuff going on. I wouldn't have watched.
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)But she might have been.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)In fact we have a series called Bones. Now, I think Anderson's character is more interesting so that could work even better than Bones and that is a hit show.
Prism
(5,815 posts)As Mulder got crazier and crazier, she was the stable, sane foundation that gave the audience an entrance point to the weirdness happening all around. I always felt she was the main character. She was the everywoman.
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Maybe she needs a new agent?
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)an equal salary with him during the original series, and her career success since then, the studio thought they could get away with offering her only half his salary now.
1939
(1,683 posts)A lot of TV actors/actresses have made demands where the studio has said "no" and either killed off the character or found someone else to do the part.
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)ohnoyoudidnt
(1,858 posts)In fact, that should be assumed in most negotiations.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)what? She does not know her place?
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)...should prove to anyone that she is worth TWICE at least what her co-star earns.
She was the BEST Miss Havisham Ive EVER seen and her Lady Dedlock was as fine as any Ive ever seen.
Fuck that noise.
IcyPeas
(21,922 posts)have you seen her in The Fall?
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Broadchurch. That was a great series.
So I guess what youre saying is I need to watch The Fall? Nest-ce-Pas?
"Luther" also came highly recommended. Have you seen that?
beac
(9,992 posts)Run, don't walk, and add them to your Netflix queue. Also "River", if you haven't watched it yet.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Yeah he did Californication (which was awesome), but he's hardly a household name to warrant double her pay. Never did any major movies.
They tried to pull a fast one and got caught. Can't have Mulder without Scully, nobody would watch. Glad she got equal pay in the end.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Him, not so much. I can't understand it.
Omaha Steve
(99,795 posts)K&R!
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pnwmom
(109,015 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,795 posts)Instead of getting PO.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)They lowballed her, she declined, she won. She proved she had leverage in the situation, and they needed her more than she needed them.
pnwmom
(109,015 posts)The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)That's how things get done. Not hoping the patriarchy will offer you an equal amount of money. She had power and she used it.
Prism
(5,815 posts)Gillian Anderson is an excellent actress and every bit as integral to the show as Duchovny. Granted, she never had a Bree Sharp song about her, but even so.
She was also excellent in Hannibal. I'll watch anything with her in it.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)It is owned by Fox. The entire company is ran by dinosaurs. What do you expect?
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)The Netflix streaming product of Grace & Frankie which stars Jane Fonda and Lilly Tomlin were paid equal amounts as Jim Waterstein and Martin Sheen while the two women were billed as the star and the men were billed as "supporting" actors.
With the help of a strong fan base and I sure very good lawyers, the women got a raise.
navarth
(5,927 posts)but from what I know they both should be paid the same. Maybe I'm crazy. But for once I agree with pnwmom.
my 2 cents
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)The fact that fellow DUers are defending the inequality. Did I stumble upon RU by mistake?
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)The real story is "How to negotiate salary".
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)that doesn't see inequality as a problem.
kcr
(15,320 posts)makes this site suck. They claim their argument is it's okay because she got what she wanted! What's the problem, honey? Like they would give a shit either way. They think they're being clever, but don't realize that to anyone who isn't a knuckledragger, they look like fools.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)When I was a car dealership, the first offer they gave me was HORRIBLE. I would have walked out. After several hours and arm-twisting, they dropped the price significantly. The difference of the final deal to the one originally offered was nearly $100 a month. And they threw in the platinum maintenance plan for free that included free oil changes.
Now if the next customer is a woman and walks in and takes the first offer and ends up paying $100 more a month than me......is that sexism? No. It's being a bad shopper.
Perhaps the two actors were originally offered the same, but Duchovny negotiated his higher.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)price than the starting price offered the man.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)They're missing, or purposely ignoring, the deeper, more complicated, issues at the heart of this example of institutional inequality.
It's not far at all from the RW BS argument that if only poor people would work hard they'd be rich.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)The mind boggles.
rockfordfile
(8,708 posts)PersonNumber503602
(1,134 posts)If they offered him something and he said, "No, I want this much" and they gave it to him, then I'm a little annoyed by it. The fact she was able to negotiate up would just mean they were trying to go as low as possible with either or. If they offered him more from the start, then I find that extremely messed up. They are both equally important to the show, and without either it wouldn't feel right.
kcr
(15,320 posts)PersonNumber503602
(1,134 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)For whatever the failings, if Gillian received equal pay for her work, we have made progress. We owe her, and women like her who stand for equality, gratitude and praise.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)Not so much for her...so I'm not totally surprised.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)While Duchovny had his semi-autobiographical show about his sex addiction on Showtime, Anderson was working her ass off in the UK with tons of movies and some very successful TV shows (The Fall being one of my favorites).
TipTok
(2,474 posts)Most folks over here in the US have heard of Californication...
Less so for Andersons 'UK work'...
Maybe if the BBC picked up the X-Files it would have gone the other way. In any case, she seems to have made her case.
My point was that it wasnt completely unreasonable to offer the less famous of the two, in US markets, less money.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Of course your bias instructs you to believe as such... regardless of its nonsensical premise.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)she be paid more than Duchovny. She is a fantastic actress and her character is far more essential because she is much stronger. Fox Mulder is a wishy washy fool.
I'm glad she stuck by her guns.
She was far better at acting in Hannibal than she was two decades ago and stole every scene she was in.
Orrex
(63,243 posts)While their offer to Duchovny was obviously buoyed by his 2015 album Hell or Highwater.