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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:26 PM Jan 2016

Thanks- the electronic thermostat is now WORKING!! No more Heatless tenants - TKS DU!!

Last edited Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:18 PM - Edit history (1)

My tenants are now heatless (in the storm) due to (it appears) the thermostat battery running out and taking too long to replace them. We tried shutting it from Heat to Off and back again, and trying to reset it- trying the hold/ run, and auto prog buttons, but they are still getting the BATT screen. (With the new batteries) It's a Chicago Controls PRG7372 and the link to the manual is below. Are we doing something wrong? I feel horrible- a plumber was just there to reset it yesterday and I'm wondering if he screwed with it. Cannot figure out if we should try the emergency override? Ugh. We are at 20" of snow, so I can't get anyone t come work on it. Anyone up for helping me troubleshoot this? TIS, people of DU.

http://www.landlordstat.com/v2/wp-content/uploads/pdf/MANUAL-PRG7372.pdf

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Thanks- the electronic thermostat is now WORKING!! No more Heatless tenants - TKS DU!! (Original Post) bettyellen Jan 2016 OP
See if there is a reset button on the furnace itself. NV Whino Jan 2016 #1
This sounds like an emergency so the emergency override would be appropriate Fumesucker Jan 2016 #2
they are hoping it is the batteries and buying more in the AM. such nice people! I feel awful! bettyellen Jan 2016 #8
Yes, you can use the emergency setting NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #3
Heatpu,p or furnace? OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2016 #4
gas boiler to radiators. bettyellen Jan 2016 #6
Sorry, West coast guy here. Don't know enough about boilers to give and don't whant to give OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2016 #9
The furnace is till functioning- probably for their hot water? And they are afraid to touch it... bettyellen Jan 2016 #12
If push comes to shove, take the front part off the stat to expose thr base plate. You should see a OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2016 #16
Add a picture grom your smart phone for any overlooked wires. Vincardog Jan 2016 #18
remove the thermostat from the wall (see "armchair programming") lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #5
Nope, and unfortunately, I am 35 miles away, and not too handy. On a fair day it is all bettyellen Jan 2016 #10
Hmm, LunaSea Jan 2016 #7
Nope on the E, just BATT. Try cycling the power at the main breaker too? bettyellen Jan 2016 #11
try cycling the power at the main breaker too Aerows Jan 2016 #13
Have them check to make sure batteries MineralMan Jan 2016 #14
I had them wipe the terminals and recheck it and it worked! Thanks MM, and ALL YOU DUers!! bettyellen Jan 2016 #15
I'm glad to hear they have heat again. MineralMan Jan 2016 #20
Ever have to help out a Lady friend with that advice?💄 AngryAmish Jan 2016 #21
I'm not sure I take your meaning... MineralMan Jan 2016 #22
What worked? OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2016 #17
Glad all is ok. Hope you're weathering the storm well. suffragette Jan 2016 #19

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
2. This sounds like an emergency so the emergency override would be appropriate
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:35 PM
Jan 2016

The heat will need to be kept an eye on when the ER is on though, will need to shut it off when it becomes warm and back on when cold, etc..

If you can make it work that way better to do that than risk damaging the entire system to the point it won't work at all. The computerized controls can be frustrating and illogical to work sometimes.

There is also the possibility the "new" batteries don't have a good charge, had that happen just recently with some cheap ones.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
3. Yes, you can use the emergency setting
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jan 2016

It bypasses the heat pump and should heat from the gas burner.

Press "System switch" to select "Heat" mode, then press the "EMER" key.

Good luck!

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
9. Sorry, West coast guy here. Don't know enough about boilers to give and don't whant to give
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:49 PM
Jan 2016

You the wrong info. If you find that nothing works, pm me and I will tell you what might work. At least it works on all furnaces.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
12. The furnace is till functioning- probably for their hot water? And they are afraid to touch it...
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jan 2016

so we are just trying to troubleshoot the stupid thermostat.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
16. If push comes to shove, take the front part off the stat to expose thr base plate. You should see a
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jan 2016

Red wire and a white wire. In most heating applications, these control the heat. TURN OFF ALL OF THE POWER TO THE SYSTEM FROM THE CIRCUIT BREAKER PANEL!!! It's 24 volts so the danger is not to you but if you fuck with these wires with the power on you will fry the transformer. You don't need that! Unhook thr red and white wires from the baseplate and twist them together. Then turn the power to the system back on. The boiler SHOULD fire up. IF that works, they will have to either go through the same process to turn it off when it gets too hot or maybe control the temp by opening some Windows. That will at least get them through the night. If you get a replacement stat tomorrow you can install it yourself. The thermostat terminals are each labeled with a letter, B,W,G,R, etc. Write down which color wire goes to each terminal and make sure you re attach the new stat with the same connections. You could have as few as three wires, Red White and green or as many as seven or Eight depending on your system. Probably a good idea to take the whole stat with you when you go to buy a replacement to make sure you get one that works with your system cause not all stats are alike. REMEMBER, ANY TIME YOU FUCK WITH THOSE WIRES MAKE SURE THE POWER TO THE SYSTEM OS OFF!

Best I can do for you without seeing the system but I spent 43 years in the HVAC biz so I'm not just some dumb handy man do it yourselfer.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
5. remove the thermostat from the wall (see "armchair programming")
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jan 2016

clean the battery contacts and reinstall batteries
if still getting "BATT" display
verify that the new batteries are good
if still bad
replace thermostat. Do you have an old manual one in a junk drawer?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. Nope, and unfortunately, I am 35 miles away, and not too handy. On a fair day it is all
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jan 2016

but impossible to get a skilled person out there on a Sunday- and they have more than 20" of snow, and a subway shut down. Hoping some stores are open in the AM.
Am suggesting they check the battery contacts.

LunaSea

(2,894 posts)
7. Hmm,
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jan 2016

Are you sure the new batteries are fully charged?
Can you test them?
Are you getting one of the "E" (followed by number) Error display?
Did you follow the Error Mode instructions where you remove the batts and hold down any button for several seconds to fully discharge the unit?

Try the emergency heat mode. It shouldn't do any harm to try it.

You might try cycling the power at the main breaker too.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. Nope on the E, just BATT. Try cycling the power at the main breaker too?
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jan 2016

Hmm, I will see what they say.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
14. Have them check to make sure batteries
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jan 2016

Are installed correctly. If either or both batteries are inserted with the terminals in the wrong direction, the thermostat won't work. Proper polarity is essential. That's my guess after reading the manual. It's easy to install a battery with reversed polarity. Very common mistake. The two batteries are not installed the same, either.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
20. I'm glad to hear they have heat again.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jan 2016

Problem solved. I'm not an HVAC guy, but did work as a handyman years ago. I can't count the number of times I fixed something by re-installing batteries in the right orientation. It's always the first thing to check with anything that uses batteries.

Cleaning the terminals is another great idea. I'm glad it worked out.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
22. I'm not sure I take your meaning...
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jan 2016

If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, that situation has never come up.

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