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(46,328 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:14 PM Jan 2016

Guess how many ranchers tore up their federal contracts at the Bundy standoff, today.

A grand total of...




One.

The Latest: Rancher renounces contract at Bundy event

A rancher from New Mexico renounced his U.S. Forest Service grazing contract at an event held Saturday by an armed group occupying a national wildlife refuge in Oregon to protest federal land use policies.

Adrian Sewell of Grant County, New Mexico, took the action at the event attended by about 120 people at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. A group led by Ammon Bundy began occupying the refuge in eastern Oregon on Jan. 2. The group plans to open the 300-square-mile refuge for cattle this spring.

Bundy has said the federal government has no authority to enforce federal grazing contracts with ranchers.

Sewell said he didn’t mind “standing out” as the only rancher to renounce his federal contract at Saturday’s event. Sewell said he’s restricted to allowing 85 cattle to graze on his federal allotment, where historically he’s run about 600 animals.

http://wbay.com/ap/the-latest-counter-protest-near-oregon-wildlife-refuge/

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Guess how many ranchers tore up their federal contracts at the Bundy standoff, today. (Original Post) Archae Jan 2016 OP
Uno. One. Solo. Pretty effing pathetic! peacebird Jan 2016 #1
And not a rancher MurrayDelph Jan 2016 #8
A grand total of 58 cows...enough for another confrontation and gunslinger media circus. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #13
I am in complete shock. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #2
As annoying a situation as this is... jberryhill Jan 2016 #3
Let me be sure I have this straight. The one guy is from New Mexico? MH1 Jan 2016 #4
Oh, that's good... jmowreader Jan 2016 #5
I burned my draft card in 1967 at protest. But, I certainly wasn't alone. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #6
Heh...my father threw his away....thinking he didin't need it.... Xolodno Jan 2016 #17
musta been a heck of a hopemountain Jan 2016 #7
Gee, it's almost like the Bundy gang doesn't represent anyone but themselves gratuitous Jan 2016 #9
Funny how often their protests turn out to be a lot of LiberalElite Jan 2016 #10
One is the loneliest number Xipe Totec Jan 2016 #11
Excellent choice of mood music.... dixiegrrrrl Jan 2016 #20
By cosmic coincidence, Xipe Totec Jan 2016 #24
Lol, perfect! N/t shanti Jan 2016 #22
You just know the feds intercepted the multitude headed for the refuge. randome Jan 2016 #12
#CowSniper scared them away. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #19
"....allowing 85 cattle to graze on his federal allotment..... Bigmack Jan 2016 #14
Most ranchers aren't stupid bhikkhu Jan 2016 #15
Cattle do a lot of damage Cal Carpenter Jan 2016 #16
Well,Grant county is probably under Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #18
Hey that's wonderful. 85 less cows on federal land. KentuckyWoman Jan 2016 #21
Ammon and his "backers" must be flamingdem Jan 2016 #23

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
13. A grand total of 58 cows...enough for another confrontation and gunslinger media circus.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:16 PM
Jan 2016
It's what a sedition organizer does. America, where guns rule and ruin lives if we let them. At what point are we all terrorized by the lack of response?

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MH1

(17,600 posts)
4. Let me be sure I have this straight. The one guy is from New Mexico?
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jan 2016

Not Oregon?

So WTF are these yahoos doing in Oregon? Sounds like they haven't even found anyone to agree with them there.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
5. Oh, that's good...
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jan 2016

It means we'll only need three trucks to confiscate all the cattle being illegally run over federal lands.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
17. Heh...my father threw his away....thinking he didin't need it....
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:38 PM
Jan 2016

...kind of regretted that.

He went to Canada with us on a vacation...on the way back on the border....they detained him. Thankfully, he had long list of speeding tickets that proved he wasn't a draft dodger.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Gee, it's almost like the Bundy gang doesn't represent anyone but themselves
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:37 PM
Jan 2016

While many ranchers may not like the system as it is, they also know that armed takeovers are not the way to negotiate for change. There are also a lot of ranchers who know and understand that there are many competing interests who all have a stake in federal lands, and they're okay with the system that has been negotiated over many years and their share in it.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
10. Funny how often their protests turn out to be a lot of
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jan 2016

yellin and screamin and flag wavin and - nothin.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
24. By cosmic coincidence,
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jan 2016

I went to bed after posting this and decided to watch a movie.

I picked Magnolia; a weird movie about cosmic coincidences.

The first 10 minutes or so of the movie had "One is the Loneliest Number" playing in the background over and over....

Gave me a very weird sensation.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. You just know the feds intercepted the multitude headed for the refuge.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jan 2016

Obviously one of them got through.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. #CowSniper scared them away.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jan 2016

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In today's believe it or not, there's a Twitter account @cowsniper420

Pete390420 ?@CowSniper420 2 hours ago Retweeted TheMaryEllenCarter
It’s also legal to kill cattle unlawfully grazing on the American People’s land
#oregonstandoff #cowsniper

TheMaryEllenCarter @flyaway47
#Bundy Security Chief Ryan Payne: It’s Legal To Kill A Cop Who’s “Unlawfully Trying to Arrest You”
http://www.wweek.com/2016/01/23/montana-militant-ryan-payne-its-legal-to-kill-a-cop-whos-unlawfully-trying-to-arrest-you/
 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
14. "....allowing 85 cattle to graze on his federal allotment.....
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jan 2016

...where historically he’s run about 600 animals."

Anybody wanna take bets on what that land...our land...looks like if he's been grazing 600 animals on it?

I've got my beefs with the BLM - allowing the ATV assholes to run ALL over it in some places - but they try to conserve the rangelands.

bhikkhu

(10,717 posts)
15. Most ranchers aren't stupid
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jan 2016

the federal grazing permits are a good deal for them.

They are also managed carefully to benefit the land itself, as in Sewell's case where 600 animals would likely do more damage than good for the size of his allotment. He may disagree, or he may just not give a crap about what overgrazing does to fragile ecosystems, but fortunately the BLM is also not stupid.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
16. Cattle do a lot of damage
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jan 2016

even on sturdy, well managed farms in places with a lot of fertile soil.

That county where his ranch is just above the border with Mexico. I've never been down that far in New Mexico but I have to assume it is an incredibly sensitive landscape. If they are telling him 85 head is his limit, there is a reason for that. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if it should be even lower that that.

What a shitbag.

I'm glad that the event failed so miserably. I laughed aloud when I opened the thread.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. Well,Grant county is probably under
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:47 PM
Jan 2016

stress conditions because of a fifteen year drought. That area is mostly desert lands and if it is like most of the South West,the BLM pulled the allotments or cattle on range numbers because of severe drought conditions. These so called Ranchers are not good stewards of the land. What really sucks is,these people get drought disaster payments in kind for the reduction in herd counts.

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