The problem is that the Bundys are not of sound mind and don't seem to care if their children are in the crossfire. In fact they're counting on their children to protect them (as in hostages).

it has not crossed the line far enough to justify some kind of shootout/harm to anyone.

Issue them live ammo and turn them loose.

Worked well at Kent State.

the National Guard as it's a federal problem on federal lands. I'm no expert, but it seems the Feds have to be the ones to take action. The shit that happened at Kent State angers me as much today as back then. They usually go after soft targets like students, OWS, people of color, those damn hippies, and left leaning citizens. These guys are RW, white and armed, so they get a free pass.

Like a Federal Prison.

I'm beginning to think that there is a CT reason for this bullshit.

beg for help! WTF!!!

Is really doing anything, the idiots are on Fed. land so a fed problem, but they come out to get things and go back, when they leave the fed land they are then subject to local authority... So who is doing what is pretty much a finger pointing operation, no one wants to take the lead on this thing..

an offense while off the refuge you can't arrest them for what they have done there. The few that have been arrested have been caught by local authorities doing something illegal. What do you suggest the local Sheriff arrest them for? Buying cereal?

Of course DU does not want to look at past occupations and learn from those, we want to pretend every time is the fist time! Alcatraz was occupied for 19 months, power on, people came and went by boat. For 19 months. It's odd to me that DU seems to think Nixon should have fire bombed those activists on day one. But it went on for 19 months without a shot being fired.

They have threatened local people and harassed them in attempts to intimidate, I am sure they could come up with something if they really wanted to try... No one wants any sort of fire fight over this but I do really doubt that bunch has the balls to really let it go that far... the are cowards in every way and if really threatened with serious consequences they will fold like last weeks newspaper...I would guess at this point that any negotiations are being based on them being allowed to leave without being arrested...