We need to clear out Snyder and his fellow-travelers if we want to have a democracy.

He will resign but he will also face criminal charges.

The entire legislature should be kicked out.

wants to be the next governor, says he's going after this case hard. Hey Shuette, if you don't throw Snyder under the bus and put him in jail, you won't even get elected dog catcher.

Throw all the bums out

Seems these boobs keep getting elected in spite of the royal screwings they hand out to the people of their states. Brownback, Walker, Scott. Voting machines or just really stupid people?

term limited out. He was looking at VP or other office.

Didn't know this. I believe term limits are a way to abdicate citizen responsibility (staying informed and active) but in this case it may just save lives.

from 19 limbaugh stations that will be defending him while wearing the logos of 3 major michigan universities. Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1

rw radio in all states is closely coordinated with state and national GOP. because the dems and left ignore it it is very succcessfull- invisible to those whose asses it kicks.

and these universities in those states you mentioned are helping those governors defund public ed, keep tuition high, fight legislation to reduce student debt, and suppress student voting.

FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2
KANSAS 4 Kansas St. 2, Kansas 1, Wichita St. 1
WISCONSIN 4 Wisconsin 4

there are 90 major universities that help 260+ limbaugh stations blast the country with racism, sexism, lies and global warming denial, and most of them probably can't make it without the community cred and ad draw those associations provide.

it's absurd- if michiganders want to get him and the republican legislature out all they have to do is petition and protest at those unis until they declare they will look for apolitical radio stations to broadcast their sports.

the discussion will cause station advertisers to flee until the stations find alternate programming.

the walker emails showed how closely he and his office was coordinating with local rw radio to attack his opponents and make his excuses. there were numerous emails showing that. that's why wisconsin protests didn't work- a few blowhards made enough noise. if the protestors had protested those radio stations instead, or the university of wisconsin for supporting 4 of them while they attacked the protestors, the story would be different.

all republicans rely heavily on talk radio to get elected, pass their anti democratic legislation, commit crimes, and stay elected.

liberals ignoring that fact is why we're in this trump cruz limbaugh mess the last 25 years. probably only a handful of snyder haters in michigan even know whats going on on talk radio in defense of snyder.

You are so right. It's maddening...and we do nothing about it.

All the protesting in the world won't help unless it's directed at the right problem. They could give a rats-ass how many people show up at City Hall, because they've got hundreds of these little propaganda machines throughout the state pumping out their "privatize everything" bullshit, and they have the legitimacy of Big Time College Football and Sports.

The NFL Players have a Union. There is absolutely NO WAY that a professional Football Team should have anything broadcast, from a game to a coaches show, on any station that carries Limbaugh or any of the other hate-talkers.

Urban Meyer, who does a great job recruiting young men to his team, should not have his show followed by an a$$hat who will spend three hours demeaning and slandering some of the neighborhoods and parents those young men come from.

10,000 people protesting at City Hall don't have nearly the impact that 50 people carrying signs outside 200 local radio stations would.

This has to end...and it has to start locally.

difficult unless a bunch of them or the unions did it at the same time so activist pro players weren't retaliated against by republican owners.

but i'll bet once it started happening at the college level the pros wouldn't be too far behind.

a lot of those stations are the loudest ones around so the team PR people will be pretty pissed off and it could get to the football crowd vs liberals. but that would be an important conversation that would bring the rw blowhards out from under their rocks.

Who appointed those? That is the culprit.

There's no way in hell that damned 'emergency' manager law could be constitutional, allowing a democratically elected local official be replaced by a political appointee, but that's exactly what happened.

sure you'll find ALEC

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.... toxins found in peoples blood, urine, and tissues to Michigan's envirionmental
agency. Synder and his paymasters the Kochs and so on wanted to push their
deregulation agenda no matter what. This is what you get w/republicans.

BTW until we fix the rigged voting machines we will continue to get republicans
put into power even though the didn't get the most votes.

examples can be seen in Kansas, Kentucky, and Wisconsin.

Because if we don't, the same thing will happen in other cities, and we'll just repeat the process each time.

Koch Industries and ALEC need to be tied to everything that they have their filthy hands in.

BP's Gulf oil spill happened because Dick Cheney's energy task force ruled that
having emergency kill switches on deep water oil rigs was too expensive.

The Big Branch Coal Mine explosion in W.V. was the result of w bush appointing
an executive from Massey Energy to be in charge of mine safety and despite tons
of documented safety problems the mine just ignored them because they knew
no enforcement would take place.

In Wisconsin Scott Walker chased out or fired many state employees who were
responsible for dam and levy safety and it is just a matter of time before something
goes bad and people are put at risk.

Crickets, I tell you.

Seems the bastard brothers have captured a beach head in the American Midwest.

Wisconsin - destroy unions? check
Kansas - tax the poor and lower taxes on rich and business? check
Michigan - change government from by the people to by the Koch's? check

by taxing retirees & those on disability. Then came the Right to Fire law. And none of these laws can be overturned because they were attached to appropriations bills, so we the people cannot do anything about it. Michigan is a third rate Banana Republic with Rick Snyder a tinhorn dictator.

We are fucked.

Republicans slander government and then disassemble it. Then they make it impossible to re-assemble it.
Then they say hey, it's not us, it's that evil government. Then they use the government to destroy democracy. And because our education system is so degraded, we don't know what to do next.

It's the perfect crime.

offering rates that were lower long term, if Flint remained with Detroit's water district -- but so that the Detroit water system itself could be forced into financial distress, then privatized and its pieces sold off to private hands and its unions busted.

It's bad enough to poison children to save money. In this case, though, children were poisoned for higher profits for the plutocrats.

Charlie Pierce notes poignantly that those calling for Snyder's resignation are the same people who complained about the water and whose complaints were ignored then.

But they're lower-income minority and white kids, so who cares?

(to hide my utter and complete rage)

I command you!

They don't even know when the new governor privatizes their local government. This lack of knowledge does not surprise me, unfortunately. Ask most people who their city council member or mayor is and they look like a deer in the headlights, reaching for who in the hell that is. Yet, come election time, it didn't seem to matter in Flint.

I caught a reaction the other day to a question put to a Flint resident after this horror occurred, "Where do you think the BLAME starts?"... After that same look, the woman decided she'd begin with their city council/mayor.

People don't even know the structure of their local government. And, who can be surprised?

I tried to reach out proactively as a councilwoman for 5 years. Most people remain clueless, unless a problem hit the media effecting them or their neighborhood. The local news considers only covering what bleeds, and just as it always doesn't wish to inform beyond what bleeds, you'd never know where most of your taxes go. The corporately owned television media is even less informative.

It takes a catastrophe to wake up to demons running the show, folks. Why is that?

and the EPA, everybody but a fellow Republican. I can just see it now. We in Michigan are well and truly fucked. We are a cautionary tale for the nation because what do you call an "Emergency Manager" on a national level? A dictator. It's not that big of a stretch.

Snyder hires a campaign donor to 'investigate' if anything illegal was done.
His office is on record having ridiculed people who were complaining about their water after being told it was safe to drink.
He only released some of the emails involved in the scandal, and those that were released were heavily redacted.
He has now hired a PR firm to try and save his ass.
edit: Forgot to add:
Manipulated testing results by leaving off the most heavily poisoned samples so the average would appear lower.

Since Nixon, all a politician has to do to avoid prosecution is resign, then everyone else gives up. That is bullshit.