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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMany Trump supporters were probably Summer of Love hippies.
Since most of his followers are of Baby-Boomer age there must be some who were peace and love hippies when they were young.
Here on DU many of us are Baby-Boomers too and we have retained in our hearts the core values of that era.
But I've seen others, free spirits when young, who rejected their peace and freedom values and have become sour, greedy, grasping, old prunes. (And Republican of course)
I wonder what turns people into this?
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)I have often wondered what happened to the peace and love generation.
Now, so many of them have turned into the Fox and Trump generation.
Sad
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)a relatively small handful of people were hippies but you'd never would think that given the amount of attention they received.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)I am the same age as Trump's trumpeters and strumpets.
But I don't support the Almighty Dullard.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and will become more so with age and parenthood. They run with their friends, the almighty group and what it thinks the center of their world while brain development continues.
I remember back then too, listening to some friends agreeing that when the "revolution" came all they wanted for their part of it was to shoot a senator and others about how we had to do away with war, that it just required commitment to peace. I wonder where they all are now and who they're supporting. For sure they're not all chatting politics on the floor together now.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)be sure to wear a rat's nest in your hair."
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)The traveling wall has been in my area a few times and I couldn't bring myself up to go see it.
The River
(2,615 posts)His "boomer" followers were just young rednecks/racist/A-holes
who grew old and angry. They missed the 60's entirely.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I listened to RW talk radio for about a decade as a commuter, I can see how it can very easily warp someone's thinking. Didn't work on me I just got more liberal but someone who is not as naturally argumentative as I am could fall for it.
A great many Republican were made in the car while they commuted, far more than I think most of us realize.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)In fact, since very few were ever hippies, an educated guess would be that "many" could not have been hippies.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)"summer of love" hippies - they smoked the pot and maybe even dropped acid for a year or two but they have long put that nonsense behind them and are now suburban republican late middle age boomer republicans.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)And we know which group the OP belongs to.
unc70
(6,115 posts)The cultural divide during the Summer of Love and the decade following was as great or greater than the divide between DU and Trump supporters. From what I can tell, very few Trump supporters would qualify has even pseudo hippies like me. I was a bit too young and in a wrong place to have fully "participated" in the Summer of Love. Tried my best to make up for it as a college student in the streets in the late 60s.
The Trump/GOP supporters most likely were on the opposing side during the Boomer led movements: civil rights, anti-war, women's rights, etc.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Media did a lot of hype back in 1967, too, and inflated the hippie population numbers.
BTW, that "Summer of Love" (as christened by the media) was chock full of race riots from coast to coast. Not much love going on back then in reality.
Nay
(12,051 posts)There were plenty of rich Republican kids, working class kids who didn't have time for that shit, etc. Certainly, the hippie movement drew from any and all types, but the total number was pretty small and mostly confined to college kids. I was there and was only a semi-hippie -- never did drugs, but did attend a couple of marches against the Vietnam War.
Mendocino
(7,495 posts)Not everybody was a hippie.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)And I am still a hippy. I just don't wear tie dye any more.
And I am pretty liberal. Not way out there but pretty far to the left.
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)What goes around comes back around
Divide and Conquer is real and it works.
What happened to $5 Billion dollars blown on Ukraine? Who cares.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)No wonder Bernie's support is so low among minority voters.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)liked Obama are the people being razzed. And many of them have it coming. In 08, a good friend of mine was very early pro Obama, his wife strongly for Hillary. His stance was 'He will end the wars and she will make more wars'. When the McClurkin stuff came around I asked him if he would consider mentioning with his donations that he was supporting in spite of and not because of the anti gay preachers. He went off on me "You don't care about the WAR! What about the WAR? Your rights are not more important than dead people we are killing, you are in favor of WAR!!!!"
So that was in fact the tack they often took. She was for war, he would make instant peace and thus must not be questioned if he bashed some gays in his quest for harmony.
Then Obama won and all they talk about is money.
People who allow themselves extreme rhetoric such as 'He will end all wars and you gays don't care about WARS and Hillary just wants more wars' later when war is no longer on their minds it is in fact worth mentioning that they formerly castigated many persons while claiming they were ultra righteous superior peace first types.
The 'we are the peace movement' trip was an affectation. The 'movement' vanished into air, into thin air.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'd call international aid "blown" money too... were I irrational, and relied on bias to reach a conclusion. We should mention Nuland's cookies also-- very nefarious. Very nefarious indeed.
olddots
(10,237 posts)Trump voters come in only one size and shape = ignorant ugly turd maggots who are timelessly embarrassing .
The older I get, the more liberal I've become. More liberal than the 60s.
Things do get better as they age.
Or, maybe it seems I'm more liberal because the RWNJs are evilish crazy, & the Democratic Party has been swinging to the right for too many years and I don't like any of it.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)After free sex and drugs. True peace and love people were actually a very small part of it. So it's no surprise that many off these wannabe hippies became who they always were, self-serving, arrogant conservatives. I was not a hippy but I have close and dear friends who were/are and they did not become rushbots or any kind of bot.
And BTW my friends did not treat me any different when I enlisted in the military. They were still my friends.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)There were a lot of people who were jiving with the cosmik debris
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...not because they actually cared.
Maeve
(42,282 posts)I grew up in rural Ohio and have seen the hatred for the media-hyped 'hippie' image. Knew few hippies--they congregated in the cities and found a cold welcome in much of rural/small town America.
Trump supporters are more likely to NOT have gone to college; these are the folks who graduated from high school and went to work at the local factory, got married and thought they'd live the life of 'Leave It to Beaver' and 'Donna Reed', but the factory closed, the towns dried up and everything they thought was promised to them turned to dust. I'm a mid-Boomer, born in 1955--the rules changed and my life didn't go as planned, either. But I'm smart enough to know it wasn't immigrants who messed things up. It was greed-heads...like Il Donald...and politicians who divide and conquer for profit.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Most were too intelligent for that dummy. IF they went conservative, they'd pick a brighter bulb than Trump. As a former SOL hippie, I think I speak with some authority.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Someone with data came to a VERY different conclusion:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533#ixzz3yXxum000
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)Most people at heart are followers lacking perhaps their own moral compass.
I don't know of many true hippies who became fire breathing right wingers but I do know many who sort of latched onto the movement as we all did, especially us younger boomers and later morphed into something quite different. I know some who've found God and with it certainty in evangelical Christianity or Orthodox Judaism. Some took the "If feels good do it" thing to heart and are now libertarians.
Some of my old friends wore tie die and bellbottoms but inherited their parent's politics and values, in my case your basic Archie Bunker, northeast blue collar orientation with its inherent racism and intolerance. For many of those people Trump is a natural fit.
I have no idea why I turned out different. Maybe it's a natural skepticism married to some of the idealism I saw around me in my formative years.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)A reminder that only about 10% of Boomers were activists. Those of us who were activists then are activists now. Go to a soup kitchen. Who's running it? Or the homeless shelter or the food pantry. Who's running it?
The other 90% went on their merry way not giving one thought to their fellow humans. But 90% of the Boomers aren't tRump fans and they certainly aren't Hillary fans. No one "turned" into anything. They were always selfish assbites -- as happens in every generation.
I'm not sure why you have to paint an entire generation with a broad, negative, binary-thinking brush but maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't with an entire generation. You catchin' my drift there, Ace?
panader0
(25,816 posts)Still into peace, love and herb.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)A definite motivator that was almost exclusively liberal. (Ted Nugent being the only exception that I can think of offhand)
spanone
(135,844 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)People are who they are. For every "Summer of Love" hippy who turned into a hard-core GOP backer, a young Vietnam War supporter turned into a hard-core Liberal.
Anecdotal case-in-point: My father. Gladly signed up for the draft, gladly was drafted, showed up at the designated hour and was booted out because he had kidney stones. When the situation resolved itself, he had a young child and was passed over. He always (ALWAYS) voted Republican. And then, something happened, thanks to trickle down economics, the job he'd had for decades went away, and the scales fell from his eyes... He has voted solid Dem since 1992. Just this morning he sent me some pro-Bernie literature.
Yeah, you can't say what you said and ever turn it into fact.