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:largeOn Sunday the Republican front-runner, who is a Presbyterian, attended a non-denominational church with his wife Melania in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
He took Communion but momentarily became confused and tried to put some money on one of the silver plates being passed around.
"I thought it was for offering," he explained and laughed.
The pastor told Mr Trump that "Jesus will guide your decisions". Mr Trump replied: "Thank you, I need that."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12132971/After-tomorrow-Donald-Trump-could-be-unstoppable.html
milestogo
(16,829 posts)between communion and the offering.
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It's all about power and prejudice since you're backing this man.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)malaise
(269,038 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)alfredo
(60,074 posts)Jesus is just a token until a Franco, Marcos, or Stalin comes along.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)3catwoman3
(24,006 posts)...phony. Any bets on how long it has been since he attended a church service?
KentuckyWoman
(6,685 posts)Geez you'd think if he's going to pass himself off to Christians he'd at least educate himself on a just a little bit of the culture.
He really does think he can just phone it in.
malaise
(269,038 posts)and to be honest I'm loving how he's exposing all the hypocrites on the right.
I detest his racist, fascist views but some of this is freaking hilarious
KentuckyWoman
(6,685 posts)Without fail every Trump supporter I have met is a bigot and most of them are evangelicals.
In fact, one of them is my sister in law, who flat out told me I'm going to hell because I believe dinosaurs were here a lot more than 6000 years ago. (She thinks they were just really old and really big lizards that people used for transportation to spread out and populate the planet)
Yes, this has been both a tragedy and a comedy.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)"I watched the minister move on, shaking his head, staring at these blobs of gunk floating in his wine."
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/02/07/books/watching-over-mommy-and-the-president.html
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/17/a_fisher_king_in_the_white_house_partner/
Initech
(100,080 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)louis-t
(23,295 posts)moose65
(3,167 posts)I say something like "Do you REALLY think Donald Trump is a Christian?"
The answer is, of course, that they don't really give a shit if he goes to church or not. They will literally sell their souls to the devil as long as the Republicans win. They see it like a sporting event: the objective is to WIN, at all costs. They really do not care what the candidate says, as long as he's a Republican and they see him as a winner. It's all about winning to them. I have never seen anything like it. They don't care about policy or principles. All they want is to kick Obama out of the White House and replace him with a "real American."
It's just like the governor in Kentucky, who campaigned on dismantling Kynect, whom many people in Kentucky like and think it's working. They didn't care about that, as long as a Republican won.
Jimmy Carter is the only President in my lifetime who I can truly say is a Christian, and it's because of his actions, not his words. Trump is about the furthest thing from a Christian that I can imagine.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Any religious right who support Trump are deluding themselves.
catbyte
(34,402 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)was long ago, when the altar servers would hold one under the communion receivers chin, during Communion to prevent a possible tumble to the floor of a host.
7962
(11,841 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)... certainly can't be what she had in mind when she signed the pre-nup ...
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That's actually semi encouraging.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)Trump is religious all right, it's just that his "god" is himself.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Geeks On Hugs
(3 posts)The man is a psychopath.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)But, you gotta leave a tip
The Donald will send over a few bottles from his dungeon
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Trump has obviously never been to church, opened the Bible or even been briefed on the culture.
Earlier Trump referred to the body of Christ as "my little cracker" and claims to like the Old and New Testaments equally.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/
loudsue
(14,087 posts)All this country needs is another embarrassment of a president, and another republican to crash the economy and start a war.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)He has one of the highest IQs known to man. He said so himself.
libodem
(19,288 posts)A rich man and getting into heaven? His children are Jewish by some accounts which shields him against any claims of antisemitism.
A fraud for all Religions. He's a sideshow, carnival barker, play acting a role. In no way is he a genuine human being.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)and pass it on
Isn't that how church works? I go all the time.
brooklynite
(94,591 posts)...I mean, they bring the food and drink right up to your mouth.
gcomeau
(5,764 posts)...I wouldn't know what the plate was for either if I just walked in and sat down in the church.
But in *more* fairness I also wouldn't attend the church I had never had any interest in before in a phony baloney show of piety to try to cynically woo voters. So boo hoo for Trump.
czarjak
(11,278 posts)"I take my little cracker and my wine." Dumbass thinks communion is about sin absolvement. Ticket punched for the Pearly Gates, huh?
NCjack
(10,279 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)but I guess thats unheard of anymore I still would rather do it from the cup. yes it's real wine. although sugared down so one can drink it. If your 14-15 it's the only legal way to drink wine once your confirmed. (May 1990 for me) Trump is Presbyterian but they merged with the UCC and ELCA in 1997 or so.
taken from wikipedia on the matter - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterian_Church_%28USA%29
Formula of agreement
Old Whaler's Church (Sag Harbor)
In 1997 the PCUSA and three other churches of Reformation heritage: the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Reformed Church in America and the United Church of Christ, acted on an ecumenical proposal of historic importance, known as A Formula of Agreement. The timing reflected a doctrinal consensus which had been developing over the past thirty-two years coupled with an increasing urgency for the church to proclaim a gospel of unity in contemporary society. In light of identified doctrinal consensus, desiring to bear visible witness to the unity of the Church, and hearing the call to engage together in God's mission, it was recommended:
That the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (USA), the Reformed Church in America, and the United Church of Christ declare on the basis of A Common Calling and their adoption of this A Formula of Agreement that they are in full communion with one another. Thus, each church is entering into or affirming full communion with three other churches.[54]
The term "full communion" is understood here to specifically mean that the four churches:
recognize each other as churches in which the gospel is rightly preached and the sacraments rightly administered according to the Word of God;
withdraw any historic condemnation by one side or the other as inappropriate for the life and faith of our churches today;
continue to recognize each other's Baptism and authorize and encourage the sharing of the Lord's Supper among their members; recognize each other's various ministries and make provision for the orderly exchange of ordained ministers of Word and Sacrament;
establish appropriate channels of consultation and decision-making within the existing structures of the churches;
commit themselves to an ongoing process of theological dialogue in order to clarify further the common understanding of the faith and foster its common expression in evangelism, witness, and service;
pledge themselves to living together under the Gospel in such a way that the principle of mutual affirmation and admonition becomes the basis of a trusting relationship in which respect and love for the other will have a chance to grow.
The agreement assumed the doctrinal consensus articulated in A Common Calling:The Witness of Our Reformation Churches in North America Today, and is to be viewed in concert with that document. The purpose of A Formula of Agreement is to elucidate the complementarity of affirmation and admonition as the basic principle of entering into full communion and the implications of that action as described in A Common Calling.
The 209th General Assembly (1997) approved A Formula of Agreement and in 1998 the 210th General Assembly declared full communion among these Protestant bodies.
packman
(16,296 posts)He would have burst into flame. Thank the gods he didn't.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)FairWinds
(1,717 posts)but we know it's that cash on the plate that buys the indulgences.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Jesus, are we the dumbest nation on the planet?
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)needs an authoritarian god and authoritarian leaders for authoritarian followers to follow.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Too much: EGO
Too little: Asshole.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)A republican candidate isn't religious enough. Never thought I'd see that.
Warpy
(111,270 posts)I'm an atheist and I haven't set foot in a church for decades but even I know the difference.
That pretty much seals his fate among the religiously insane as well as the merely observant.