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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:42 PM Jan 2016

Donald Trump tries to put money on Communion plate

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On Sunday the Republican front-runner, who is a Presbyterian, attended a non-denominational church with his wife Melania in Council Bluffs, Iowa.

He took Communion but momentarily became confused and tried to put some money on one of the silver plates being passed around.

"I thought it was for offering," he explained and laughed.

The pastor told Mr Trump that "Jesus will guide your decisions". Mr Trump replied: "Thank you, I need that."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12132971/After-tomorrow-Donald-Trump-could-be-unstoppable.html
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Donald Trump tries to put money on Communion plate (Original Post) kpete Jan 2016 OP
Even a Presbyterian child would know the difference milestogo Jan 2016 #1
Rookie Mistake n/t Roy Rolling Feb 2016 #28
Okay evangelicals, you can quit pretending it's about morality and stuff gratuitous Jan 2016 #2
This^ world wide wally Feb 2016 #6
Thread winner malaise Feb 2016 #17
I hate having him to thank for exposing it. n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #26
They are authoritarian followers, religiosity is just a symptom. alfredo Feb 2016 #39
Maybe he was tipping the priest NightWatcher Jan 2016 #3
What a complete... 3catwoman3 Feb 2016 #4
Trump is such a lazyass. KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #5
He does not give a flying fugg malaise Feb 2016 #18
It does kindof function like a scarlet letter. KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #36
reminds me of when Reagan pitched his host into the wine after Nancy's slipped MisterP Feb 2016 #7
But I thought he was the most religious guy on the planet! Initech Feb 2016 #8
Was the reading from Two Corinthians? KamaAina Feb 2016 #9
"Two Corinthians walk into a bar...." louis-t Feb 2016 #30
This is what I keep asking people! moose65 Feb 2016 #10
^this flygal Feb 2016 #11
*scoffing noise* since when have fundies ever worried about what the Bible SAID? MisterP Feb 2016 #22
He's clearly not religious at all LittleBlue Feb 2016 #12
What a dumbass. catbyte Feb 2016 #13
Being Catholic, the only Communion plate I have ever seen benld74 Feb 2016 #14
And its called a "platen" 7962 Feb 2016 #42
I wonder what Melania thinks of all this bullshit ... Myrina Feb 2016 #15
His lack of religious fundamentalist fervor is a good thing oberliner Feb 2016 #16
Not when it's replaced by narcissism nxylas Feb 2016 #21
Yuppers. nt ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #35
Trump is far worse Geeks On Hugs Feb 2016 #52
Was the Communion tray empty when it got to Donald or did he empty it then try to leave a tip? Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #19
The wine was not great and the cookies were a little dry rpannier Feb 2016 #40
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!. . . annabanana Feb 2016 #48
I picture him saying, "Can't they put some cheese on these crackers?". Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #20
Ann Richards said GWB bought his first pair of cowboy boots when he ran for office. GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #23
Another George Bush. Republicans are so stooooopid! loudsue Feb 2016 #24
Hey, Trump is really smart nxylas Feb 2016 #37
What's that verse about the eye of a needle libodem Feb 2016 #25
noob. nt lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #27
Please deposit Two Corinthians mainstreetonce Feb 2016 #29
You should always tip for good service... brooklynite Feb 2016 #31
In fairness... gcomeau Feb 2016 #32
But, but... czarjak Feb 2016 #33
He thought he was in a bar. /nt NCjack Feb 2016 #34
prefer getting it straight from the cup PatrynXX Feb 2016 #38
Well, if he had taken the communion wafer packman Feb 2016 #41
He should have just claimed it was a tip... n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #43
Yeah, Most of us Christers are more subtle about it . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #44
A complete ass-hat. Hulk Feb 2016 #45
Newsflash: Trump had an asshole transplant, but the assholes rejected him. Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #46
Authoritarian religion sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #47
HOW MUCH MONEY DID HE PUT IN retrowire Feb 2016 #49
It actually sounds like there are DUers upset that hughee99 Feb 2016 #50
OK, that's really funny Warpy Feb 2016 #51

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Okay evangelicals, you can quit pretending it's about morality and stuff
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jan 2016

It's all about power and prejudice since you're backing this man.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
39. They are authoritarian followers, religiosity is just a symptom.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 09:29 PM
Feb 2016

Jesus is just a token until a Franco, Marcos, or Stalin comes along.

KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
5. Trump is such a lazyass.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 12:24 AM
Feb 2016

Geez you'd think if he's going to pass himself off to Christians he'd at least educate himself on a just a little bit of the culture.

He really does think he can just phone it in.

malaise

(269,038 posts)
18. He does not give a flying fugg
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:18 PM
Feb 2016

and to be honest I'm loving how he's exposing all the hypocrites on the right.
I detest his racist, fascist views but some of this is freaking hilarious

KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
36. It does kindof function like a scarlet letter.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

Without fail every Trump supporter I have met is a bigot and most of them are evangelicals.

In fact, one of them is my sister in law, who flat out told me I'm going to hell because I believe dinosaurs were here a lot more than 6000 years ago. (She thinks they were just really old and really big lizards that people used for transportation to spread out and populate the planet)

Yes, this has been both a tragedy and a comedy.

moose65

(3,167 posts)
10. This is what I keep asking people!
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:46 PM
Feb 2016

I say something like "Do you REALLY think Donald Trump is a Christian?"

The answer is, of course, that they don't really give a shit if he goes to church or not. They will literally sell their souls to the devil as long as the Republicans win. They see it like a sporting event: the objective is to WIN, at all costs. They really do not care what the candidate says, as long as he's a Republican and they see him as a winner. It's all about winning to them. I have never seen anything like it. They don't care about policy or principles. All they want is to kick Obama out of the White House and replace him with a "real American."

It's just like the governor in Kentucky, who campaigned on dismantling Kynect, whom many people in Kentucky like and think it's working. They didn't care about that, as long as a Republican won.

Jimmy Carter is the only President in my lifetime who I can truly say is a Christian, and it's because of his actions, not his words. Trump is about the furthest thing from a Christian that I can imagine.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
14. Being Catholic, the only Communion plate I have ever seen
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:06 PM
Feb 2016

was long ago, when the altar servers would hold one under the communion receivers chin, during Communion to prevent a possible tumble to the floor of a host.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
15. I wonder what Melania thinks of all this bullshit ...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:11 PM
Feb 2016

... certainly can't be what she had in mind when she signed the pre-nup ...

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
21. Not when it's replaced by narcissism
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:33 PM
Feb 2016

Trump is religious all right, it's just that his "god" is himself.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
40. The wine was not great and the cookies were a little dry
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 10:51 PM
Feb 2016

But, you gotta leave a tip
The Donald will send over a few bottles from his dungeon

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
23. Ann Richards said GWB bought his first pair of cowboy boots when he ran for office.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:36 PM
Feb 2016

Trump has obviously never been to church, opened the Bible or even been briefed on the culture.

Earlier Trump referred to the body of Christ as "my little cracker" and claims to like the Old and New Testaments equally.

"When I drink my little wine -- which is about the only wine I drink -- and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed," he said.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
24. Another George Bush. Republicans are so stooooopid!
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:13 PM
Feb 2016

All this country needs is another embarrassment of a president, and another republican to crash the economy and start a war.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
25. What's that verse about the eye of a needle
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

A rich man and getting into heaven? His children are Jewish by some accounts which shields him against any claims of antisemitism.

A fraud for all Religions. He's a sideshow, carnival barker, play acting a role. In no way is he a genuine human being.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
31. You should always tip for good service...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:57 PM
Feb 2016

...I mean, they bring the food and drink right up to your mouth.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
32. In fairness...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

...I wouldn't know what the plate was for either if I just walked in and sat down in the church.

But in *more* fairness I also wouldn't attend the church I had never had any interest in before in a phony baloney show of piety to try to cynically woo voters. So boo hoo for Trump.

czarjak

(11,278 posts)
33. But, but...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:17 PM
Feb 2016

"I take my little cracker and my wine." Dumbass thinks communion is about sin absolvement. Ticket punched for the Pearly Gates, huh?

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
38. prefer getting it straight from the cup
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

but I guess thats unheard of anymore I still would rather do it from the cup. yes it's real wine. although sugared down so one can drink it. If your 14-15 it's the only legal way to drink wine once your confirmed. (May 1990 for me) Trump is Presbyterian but they merged with the UCC and ELCA in 1997 or so.

taken from wikipedia on the matter - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterian_Church_%28USA%29

Formula of agreement
Old Whaler's Church (Sag Harbor)

In 1997 the PCUSA and three other churches of Reformation heritage: the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Reformed Church in America and the United Church of Christ, acted on an ecumenical proposal of historic importance, known as A Formula of Agreement. The timing reflected a doctrinal consensus which had been developing over the past thirty-two years coupled with an increasing urgency for the church to proclaim a gospel of unity in contemporary society. In light of identified doctrinal consensus, desiring to bear visible witness to the unity of the Church, and hearing the call to engage together in God's mission, it was recommended:

That the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (USA), the Reformed Church in America, and the United Church of Christ declare on the basis of A Common Calling and their adoption of this A Formula of Agreement that they are in full communion with one another. Thus, each church is entering into or affirming full communion with three other churches.[54]

The term "full communion" is understood here to specifically mean that the four churches:

recognize each other as churches in which the gospel is rightly preached and the sacraments rightly administered according to the Word of God;
withdraw any historic condemnation by one side or the other as inappropriate for the life and faith of our churches today;
continue to recognize each other's Baptism and authorize and encourage the sharing of the Lord's Supper among their members; recognize each other's various ministries and make provision for the orderly exchange of ordained ministers of Word and Sacrament;
establish appropriate channels of consultation and decision-making within the existing structures of the churches;
commit themselves to an ongoing process of theological dialogue in order to clarify further the common understanding of the faith and foster its common expression in evangelism, witness, and service;
pledge themselves to living together under the Gospel in such a way that the principle of mutual affirmation and admonition becomes the basis of a trusting relationship in which respect and love for the other will have a chance to grow.

The agreement assumed the doctrinal consensus articulated in A Common Calling:The Witness of Our Reformation Churches in North America Today, and is to be viewed in concert with that document. The purpose of A Formula of Agreement is to elucidate the complementarity of affirmation and admonition as the basic principle of entering into full communion and the implications of that action as described in A Common Calling.

The 209th General Assembly (1997) approved A Formula of Agreement and in 1998 the 210th General Assembly declared full communion among these Protestant bodies.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
41. Well, if he had taken the communion wafer
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:47 PM
Feb 2016

He would have burst into flame. Thank the gods he didn't.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
44. Yeah, Most of us Christers are more subtle about it . .
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:18 AM
Feb 2016

but we know it's that cash on the plate that buys the indulgences.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
47. Authoritarian religion
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:40 AM
Feb 2016

needs an authoritarian god and authoritarian leaders for authoritarian followers to follow.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
50. It actually sounds like there are DUers upset that
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:40 PM
Feb 2016

A republican candidate isn't religious enough. Never thought I'd see that.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
51. OK, that's really funny
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

I'm an atheist and I haven't set foot in a church for decades but even I know the difference.

That pretty much seals his fate among the religiously insane as well as the merely observant.

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