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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo nonsense analysis of the LaVoy Finicum shooting
Actual common sense from a guy who usually sits firmly right of center.
Excellent commentary by TheYankeeMarshal who hosts one of the best gun channels on YouTube.
Describes himself "The Yankee Marshal Left of center gun nut living in the Pacific Northwest. I believe that the principles of self-defense and self-reliance"
LaVoy Finicum: Patriot, Patsy, or Fool?
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I'm at work and in a meeting, but would love to hear his take.
Thank you!
randome
(34,845 posts)And not in sudden terror at having been shot. If he'd already been wounded, both hands would have acted in concert. Instead one hand is moving his jacket and the other is reaching to his side, where he likely had his 9mm gun.
Short take: Finnicum really is responsible for what happened and was not 'assassinated'.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Very much you taking the time to provide a synopsis for those of us that are in boring meetings.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
polly7
(20,582 posts)Watching him being killed made me extremely sad. I disagree with everything he and that group stand for, but it's bothered me ever since .. just as a human being seeing someone die. I was one of those who thought he could possibly be grasping at a wound and not going for his gun - it all happened so fast and was hard for me to tell from that aerial footage. The video helped clear this up for me.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Then suddenly reaches in his coat. Wtf was he thinking?
It was clear, however, and I guess they had the right to shoot.
polly7
(20,582 posts)I saw his arms go down towards his torso, which is why I wondered if he might have already been shot. And again ..... I blamed no-one - I wondered if he'd threatened them verbally, saying he was going to shoot them or something.
The video proves to me he must have gone for his gun so yes, of course he was probably going to be shot. It's still sad that a human being died for their stupidity.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I didn't see your other post; no snark intended if you thought that.
I've watched that video at least five times (can't take anymore), and just don't get that his hands were up first.
I'm also saddened by the unnecessary death. Oddly, when that news hit - before we knew who was killed I just had a feeling it was him, and I was thinking "oh no, not tarp guy."
The whole episode was comedy, until it turned tragic.
I wonder what is going to happen with these remaining fools.
polly7
(20,582 posts)There were a few people who took offense I didn't see what they did, as though I was blaming LE - which I wasn't.
I didn't want it to be him either ... or anyone, but him I guess because when he talked to reporters he seemed to not want things to escalate, imo. I didn't see all of his interviews though.
I wonder too what will happen - those families they've left behind, I hope they made plans for how they'd manage. They couldn't have been stupid enough to not know they'd be arrested eventually? Or maybe they could. Yes, they definitely are fools.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)My guess on the hands up first was that he at least had the decency to move away from the truck where there were more people so they wouldn't be in the line of fire.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Who knows? Maybe he was ill and this was a good way to go.
Just strange.
He seemed a bit of a dandy with all his fancy western-style clothes; he didn't strike me as suicidal.
Very sad all around. Those Bundys are idiots.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Thank you for posting this.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)dmr
(28,347 posts)He articulates well, & I like the common sense.
I bet he'd make an awesome lawyer. An advocate for sure.
tencats
(567 posts)I agree, he'd make an awesome lawyer.
Part One Video here:
tencats
(567 posts)Unexpected common sense, practicality and reality from Joseph Trueax, the admin of the 3% Hillbilly Nation group page.
Warning: "language, cuss words"
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https://www.facebook.com/joseph.trueax/videos/1208321775862224/
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)I've seen him somewhere before.
Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)Great analysis.
Thanks for sharing.
P.S. I love his shirt.