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Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts) Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:42 PM Feb 2016

VICE on HBO "Fighting ISIS" (This is a must see)

http://www.vice.com/read/watch-the-trailer-for-our-hbo-special-report-fighting-isis

The take away from this is two fold:

1. We cant win, it is a lose lose no matter what we do, including if we do nothing.

2. Of course the blame goes to W and Cheney for this absolute nightmare, but in 2010 the Obama administration decision to stick with Maliki was problematic, to say the least.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-we-stuck-with-maliki--and-lost-iraq/2014/07/03/0dd6a8a4-f7ec-11e3-a606-946fd632f9f1_story.html

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VICE on HBO "Fighting ISIS" (This is a must see) (Original Post) Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 OP

Clinton's Campaign Chairman, and Obama's personal advisor.. EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #1

Thank you for posting this. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #2

For those that dont know, Vice.com does fantastic reporting Marrah_G Feb 2016 #3

Vice is pretty good. PersonNumber503602 Feb 2016 #4

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)

1. Clinton's Campaign Chairman, and Obama's personal advisor..

Reply to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:52 PM

Feb 2016

Owns the lobbying firm that represents Maliki... Good luck changing directions if Clinton is elected.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/13/tony-podesta-group-iraq-lobbying

The same lobbying firm has raised hundreds of thousands in campaign dollars for Hillary.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)

2. Thank you for posting this.

Reply to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:45 PM

Feb 2016

I was just going to inquire if anyone else had watched. It was very, very informative and sobering and definitely placed the blame for the rise of DAESH squarely where it belongs. My heart breaks, especially for the mothers and children displaced by all of this. To me it seems like the Kurds are the only "good guy" fighters over there.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)

3. For those that dont know, Vice.com does fantastic reporting

Reply to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 06:06 PM

Feb 2016

They are my main source of information when it comes to crisis in foriegn countries. They talk to all sides and their reporters have as much courage as a soldier.

Isis, Kurds, Crimea, Ukraine, Syria, Israel, Africa, Mexico, etc

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)

4. Vice is pretty good.

Reply to Marrah_G (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:18 PM

Feb 2016

I've been following Vice News for awhile now. They seem to have been slacking on their stories though. They used to have really good stuff every week, but they've seemed to cut back a lot.

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