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Cruz will not win the nomination (Original Post) malaise Feb 2016 OP
He leaps out of bed every morning BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #1
Rubio is the nominee and its 50/50 he wins the general. mgcgulfcoast Feb 2016 #2
I agree but think Hillary will wipe the floor with Rubio nt flamingdem Feb 2016 #3
You are so very wrong mgcgulfcoast Feb 2016 #6
The Latinos will not line up to vote for Rubio, they'll vote Clinton flamingdem Feb 2016 #7
Rubio is strong because he is a traditional repug - TBF Feb 2016 #24
Rubio has some other problems that will come out with more vetting. BigGLiberal Feb 2016 #31
That's good - TBF Feb 2016 #32
Not all Latinos are Cuban, either KamaAina Feb 2016 #35
Are you sure Latinos will vote for Hillary and not Rubio and Cruz Jim Beard Feb 2016 #42
Yes, I'm sure because the Cuban population is becoming more liberal and most Latinos in FL flamingdem Feb 2016 #45
This guy? edhopper Feb 2016 #12
NY isn't the rest of the country. And Clinton was 16 years younger back then. nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #15
16 years edhopper Feb 2016 #17
I think it'll be Rubio bigwillq Feb 2016 #4
don't know who will be the nominee malaise Feb 2016 #5
I think Rubio will be the nominee in the end. Cruz will be getting a lot more heat on whether Waldorf Feb 2016 #8
Cruz will win ... Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #9
He's got my vote for that! BuelahWitch Feb 2016 #16
His loathesome phiz is the essence of hifiguy Feb 2016 #21
Or somewhere... 3catwoman3 Feb 2016 #36
God, I hope not. He scares me more than any of them. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #10
Even dubya dislikes Cruz. davsand Feb 2016 #11
Bob Dole also apparently despises the little pissant. hifiguy Feb 2016 #20
Iowa republicans have a terrible track record when it comes to picking a winner. B Calm Feb 2016 #13
Precisely malaise Feb 2016 #14
Iowa repukes are right wing fundy nutjobs, which is why their candidates don't get that madinmaryland Feb 2016 #18
Too many people hate his guts. hifiguy Feb 2016 #19
And you just touched the surface malaise Feb 2016 #22
As I said in another Cruz thread hifiguy Feb 2016 #25
And then some malaise Feb 2016 #38
Just the really obvious ones include hifiguy Feb 2016 #39
You nailed him malaise Feb 2016 #40
lol TBF Feb 2016 #26
Ted's a furiner. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #23
To be the nominee Rubio is going to have to move sharply to the right book_worm Feb 2016 #27
Cruz is this seasons Santorum. Same by product, different label. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #28
most of america will be creeped out by this guy..... spanone Feb 2016 #29
I think the GOP leadership are hoping he'll knock Trump out of the race Warpy Feb 2016 #30
^ Yup, you got it. nt TBF Feb 2016 #33
+2 B Calm Feb 2016 #34
From your keyboard... 3catwoman3 Feb 2016 #37
I sure as hell hope not. cwydro Feb 2016 #41
In any case, it will be entertaining to watch the GOP campaign self destruct this year robertgodardfromnj Feb 2016 #43
cruz 4bernie28 Feb 2016 #44

flamingdem

(39,321 posts)
7. The Latinos will not line up to vote for Rubio, they'll vote Clinton
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:45 AM
Feb 2016

and young people will tend more to Clinton since Rubio is an empty suit.. well I hope

Why do you think Rubio is so strong?

One concern is that he'll have so much money from Koch etc.

TBF

(32,090 posts)
24. Rubio is strong because he is a traditional repug -
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:01 PM
Feb 2016

he will do their bidding. He is presentable, pro-life, and will do whatever the MF owners tell him to do. All they need to add is a protestant from a swing state for VP and their base will be thrilled. Remember who we are dealing with.

Rubio will win Texas easily and not all latinos are dems - demographics are not in our corner yet for Hillary to take it even with VP Castro (although he is a good bet 10-15 years from now).



 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
35. Not all Latinos are Cuban, either
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:15 PM
Feb 2016

Being Cuban helps him about as much with Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, etc. as it helped him with the Czech vote in Cedar Rapids last night. Cubans are politically relevant only in Florida and NJ.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
42. Are you sure Latinos will vote for Hillary and not Rubio and Cruz
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:26 PM
Feb 2016

Both are Cuban and will win Florida. Cruz has already won Texas since he is (THOSE OTHER) texans Senator. I look for California to remain Democrat.

flamingdem

(39,321 posts)
45. Yes, I'm sure because the Cuban population is becoming more liberal and most Latinos in FL
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:40 AM
Feb 2016

are no longer Cuban but Nicaraguan, Puerto Rican. The Republicans can still count on 50% in stronghold areas though. All these trends were things that Obama carefully worked 4 years ago.

edhopper

(33,615 posts)
12. This guy?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:11 AM
Feb 2016

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Any one who was here for Hillary against Lazio in the Senate race knows how well she can handle fools loike Rubio.

Waldorf

(654 posts)
8. I think Rubio will be the nominee in the end. Cruz will be getting a lot more heat on whether
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:55 AM
Feb 2016

he can be President or not. Trump I've always believed is just in for the entertainment. He's too used to getting his way and won't leave New York.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
21. His loathesome phiz is the essence of
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:45 PM
Feb 2016

backpfeifengesicht. Even more than Dudebro Pharma. Cruz's is a face that demands a pie followed by a roundhouse right. Preferably from someone the size of Andre the Giant.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
11. Even dubya dislikes Cruz.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:46 AM
Feb 2016
Fox News reports that former president George W. Bush was overheard saying he "just doesn't like" Sen. Ted Cruz, during a fundraiser for his brother Jeb in Denver. Cruz, a former Bush foreign policy adviser, has been very close to Donald Trump.
Posted on October 20, 2015


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/10/20/george_w_bush_on_ted_cruz_i_just_dont_like_the_guy.html1


Rove dislikes him. Cheney dislikes him. Anybody that knows him dislikes him. There is film footage out there showing him trying to hug his own kid and SHE is backing away from him!

Tough to win an election if nobody likes you.


Laura

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
18. Iowa repukes are right wing fundy nutjobs, which is why their candidates don't get that
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016

far in the primary process (see Huckabee and Santorum).

Whereas Iowa Democrats are like the rest of the democrats in the country.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. Too many people hate his guts.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

For instance the Repig establishment and all his colleagues in the Senate.

Sanctimonious, self-righteous, messianic assholes tend to irritate the fuck out of everyone in all possible ways.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
25. As I said in another Cruz thread
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:02 PM
Feb 2016

that evil homunculus is literally a walking encyclopedia of mental pathologies, including some they probably don't even have names for yet. He's a new and special kind of batshit nuts.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
39. Just the really obvious ones include
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:21 PM
Feb 2016

anti-social personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, delusions of grandeur/messiah complex, sadism, and possibly schizophrenia given the nature of his religulous delusions. He needs to be locked behind high, secure walls and given a horse-sized shot of Thorazine every six hours.

It's almost like someone housebroke Charlie Manson and cleaned him up.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
27. To be the nominee Rubio is going to have to move sharply to the right
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

I like Cruz's chances in many Southern states and think he might even have a shot at NH. I'm not even sure that Rubio will win his home state of Florida.

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
30. I think the GOP leadership are hoping he'll knock Trump out of the race
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:05 PM
Feb 2016

by making Trump discouraged enough to take his fake billions and pouty bluster back into business and suing everybody who sasses him. Then they'll unload with everything they have on Cruz to kick him out of the race. They might fear Trump but they utterly despise Cruz.

 
43. In any case, it will be entertaining to watch the GOP campaign self destruct this year
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 12:19 AM
Feb 2016

Personally, I for one cannot wait until Bernie Sanders is elected as the 44th president of this fine country. God knows we need a man like him as a leader.

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