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chknltl

(10,558 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:58 AM Feb 2016

Why is it called the 'White' House?

Last edited Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:12 AM - Edit history (1)

on edit: (After posting this OP fellow DUers who knew much more than I on this topic offerd up valuable additions/contradictions. It seemed prudent to leave this up instead of self deleting, please consider reading what they have written below).

If you would have asked me I would have responded with, "Well because it's white of course", but just now while watching Professor Clarence Lusane on Thom Hartmann's 'Conversation With Great Minds' I learned that there is a bit more to how we came to know it as the White House.

I am paraphrasing Prof. Lusane here but this is close to how he put it to Thom just now:

'Shortly after Teddy Roosevelt became President he invited Booker T. Washington to the Presidential Mansion. This outraged much of the south. Worse the Roosevelt daughters were in attendance for dinner so having a black man dining in the Presidential mansion with white women brought about outrage all across our nation. This national brouhaha forced President Roosevelt to back up and declare that this would not ever happen again. Then Roosevelt issued a directive to his secretary to name the Presidential Mansion the White House. For many at the time this was viewed as a concession but for many southerners the 'White' in White House was interpreted as race.'

Hartmann and Prof. Lusane went on to discuss how slaves were once housed in the White House, how much of it was built by slave labor, how millions of visitors yearly never get to hear this history. I did not know this history, I would wager that most folks don't know this history.



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Why is it called the 'White' House? (Original Post) chknltl Feb 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #1
Seems unlikely HassleCat Feb 2016 #2
I am unable to say. chknltl Feb 2016 #3
Nope! Spider Jerusalem Feb 2016 #4
Good information, thank you. chknltl Feb 2016 #5
Two reasons, as far as I can tell DFW Feb 2016 #6
I think the Jimi Hendrix reasons makes the most sense hack89 Feb 2016 #11
Careful, it may only be temporary DFW Feb 2016 #12
It's pretty easy to find referrences to the building as the White House long before Teddy. Try 1812 Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #7
As with many such stories, it's rooted in ill will. Igel Feb 2016 #8
How many people will read the OP, but not the corrections below? *sigh* n/t X_Digger Feb 2016 #9
Because it's white? bigwillq Feb 2016 #10

Response to chknltl (Original post)

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. Seems unlikely
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:55 AM
Feb 2016

It was called the White House from the time it was repainted after the British burned it in the War of 1812. It is true that Roosevelt had to endure an enormous amount of vile criticism for his dinner with Booker T. Washington, and he was the first president to use the term White House in an official way, but that is certainly not where the term originated. Did Roosevelt make the name official because of the "Guess who's coming to dinner" incident? Maybe, but I don't know of any evidence for that theory. Anybody?

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
3. I am unable to say.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:19 AM
Feb 2016

You have demonstrated more knowledge on the topic than I have. The interview I paraphrased above was the first I had heard on the topic. The interview itself revolved around Professor Clarence Lusane's book "The Black History of the White House". What I paraphrased above was preceded by Thom's question on how it came to be called the White House followed by Prof. Lusane's response that it was lengthy, complicated and the product of a lot of digging, then he went on to say what I paraphrased. I think the thing of importance I took from their discussion was this bit of Black history and how it isn't something which is common knowledge history.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
4. Nope!
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:53 AM
Feb 2016
White House, as the abode of the President of the country is modestly called... (NB this is in a book from 1850)


"An invitation to dine at the 'White House' always runs 'The President requests the pleasure, etc'" - James Fenimore Cooper, 1833.


"I proceeded with the detachment of sailors and marines under my command to the White House, on the west bank of the Potomac" - Niles' Weekly Register, 1 Oct 1814 (NB that this use of the term "White House" dates to shortly after the burning of the Executive Mansion by the British in August of that year.)


"Sir, I will turn Jefferson out of that 'white house', and hang him, and Congress I will pack off" - Aaron Burr, quoted in The Weekly Inspector, Jan 1807


So the Executive Mansion has been known as "The White House" since at least the first decade of the 19th century, and the name has nothing to do with it being repainted after the British burned it (or with racism).

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
5. Good information, thank you.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:05 AM
Feb 2016

Instead of deleting my OP it would be better to leave this added information up for discussion. I knew none of this, thank you Spider Jerusalem. I will add an edit too the OP.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
6. Two reasons, as far as I can tell
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:51 AM
Feb 2016

1. To honor a Democratic Senator from Rhode Island
2. Because after Jimi Hendrix, no one can think of Red House in any other context

I suppose there might be other explanations...........

hack89

(39,171 posts)
11. I think the Jimi Hendrix reasons makes the most sense
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:06 PM
Feb 2016

at least to me now in my present mental state.

DFW

(54,408 posts)
12. Careful, it may only be temporary
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

When you come back down, you may yet opt for the Rhode Island solution.....

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. It's pretty easy to find referrences to the building as the White House long before Teddy. Try 1812
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:45 AM
Feb 2016

From the White House website:
Why is the White House white?

"White paint has nothing to do with covering the burning of the house by the British in 1814, although every schoolchild is likely to have heard the story that way. The building was first made white with lime-based whitewash in 1798, when its walls were finished, simply as a means of protecting the porous stone from freezing. Congressman Abijah Bigelow wrote to a colleague on March 18, 1812 (three months before the United States entered war with England):

"There is much trouble at the White House, as we call it, I mean the President's" (quoted in W. B. Bryan, "The Name White House," Records of the Columbia Historical Society 34-35 [1932]: 308)."
https://www.whitehousehistory.org/questions/why-is-the-white-house-white

Igel

(35,320 posts)
8. As with many such stories, it's rooted in ill will.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:12 AM
Feb 2016

We want to believe the worst in order to help us believe we're the best or let us complain even more.

"Picnic" falls into this category.

"Squaw."

"Peanut gallery."

And a lot of other examples.

We want--sometimes need--to believe the claims, but ultimately it goes back to "they're bad, and I need more reasons to justify my belief that they're bad." What others actually do that's bad isn't enough; they must be vilified and demonized to justify something or other. What actually was done helps us to believe fictions. And if it's in the past, that's even better, because it justifies ill will 200 years later. We assume the premise and get to the desired conclusion, then often pride ourselves on our awesome critical thinking skills.

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