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LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:50 PM Feb 2016

iPhone users: Please do not manually reset your time



http://www.snopes.com/apples-blast-from-the-past/

Poison Apple
Setting your iOS device's date to 1 January 1970 won't bring up a cool new theme; it'll just break your device.

The bug renders useless any iOS device with a 64 bit processor including the iPhone 5s, 6, 6 Plus, 6s and 6s Plus, the iPad Air 2, the iPad Mini 3 and 4, and the sixth-generation iPod Touch.



As cool as this might look, it’s a hoax, and a particularly nasty one at that. Resetting your phone’s date that far back will so thoroughly confuse your phone or tablet’s operating system that you’ll either need to take it to the Apple store for a replacement, or just buy a whole new phone or tablet:



You will set the time to the Unix epoch date of 1-1-1970. When the phone starts to reboot, it can not as that is not a valid time. Unix counts from the Epoch (or start of time) so it knows that this can not be correct and tries to reboot and finds the same problem and reboots. So far no one knows how to recover the device.
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stone space

(6,498 posts)
1. Sounds like the devices may need to be recalled.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016
So far no one knows how to recover the device.


If they don't want consumers to reset the date, then they probably shouldn't provide such capabilities that as an option.



LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
2. You ought to see what happens to telephone switches (like in phone offices) when
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:06 PM
Feb 2016

you set the time incorrectly.

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
3. "The original Macintosh introduced the world to computers"?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:34 PM
Feb 2016

Ha, ha, ha.

I remember when the original Macintosh appeared. One of my fellow programmers bought one and brought it into work to show it to us. We all gathered around to look and discuss it for a while. Then we went back to our coding.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
4. Actually the WWW server and client programs were developed on a NeXT computer
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:42 PM
Feb 2016

A NeXT Computer and its object oriented development tools and libraries were used by Tim Berners-Lee and Robert Cailliau at CERN to develop the world's first web server software, CERN HTTPd, and also used to write the first web browser, WorldWideWeb.

I think the computer is still at CERN

unc70

(6,115 posts)
9. There were similar systems before W3C
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:39 PM
Feb 2016

We were running network-based systems for a couple of decades before the CERN work. They were not as flexible as the net has become, but it took a long time for WWW and search engines to become useful.

As for the Mac, when it was introduced, we were using menu/icon based systems, network enabled, 5-10 Mbute hard drives, and a real, secure operating system. I still have one that works fine after 35 years.

BTW when the Internet was "invented" ~40 years ago, we already had large networks of computers with even larger networks of terminals. That was true in the late 1960s within just my state of NC.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
10. Yes indeed, I worked on a lot of the early system. They were either pre unix mainframe type systems.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:50 PM
Feb 2016

What NeXT did that amazed people was making the Unix boxes easy to configure. The network man that installed the NeXT box at CERN remarked that it used to take a day to get everything set up. He said he turned it on and answered a few prompts and the guys E-mail popped up. I think Solaris was around then (not sure) but it still doesn't do desktop as good as the old NeXT did.

I had been running Linux for years and before that Coherent and before that Xenix etc. I bought a mac mini to play with writing some iOS software and was playing around and found that it was Unix and fell in love with them, Unix and a decent desktop, I knew I was home.

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,573 posts)
5. Ars Technica found a "fix"
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:02 PM
Feb 2016
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/02/64-bit-iphones-and-ipads-get-stuck-in-a-loop-when-set-to-january-1-1970/

Devices afflicted with this issue can't even be recovered by going into DFU mode and reflashing them. Though this wipes out all your data, it retains the bad date and subsequent boot loop. The faulty date does get reset when the battery goes completely flat, however, so discharging the phone (or disconnecting the battery, if you're brave) fixes it.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
6. It is nice that they put it into the default setting of the rom. That takes for ever
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:13 PM
Feb 2016

to discharge my battery, I tried it once when my 6 went totally batshit crazy.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
8. I think the 6's are pretty water resistant now from what I have heard.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 03:06 PM
Feb 2016

The 7's may end up being if the get rid of the head phone plug. The lightning jack is pretty water proof and I think they have made the speakers and microphones water proof. But if they make the circuit board waterproof then I think that makes the repairability about 0 because of the number of little plugs and sockets. It seems that they just want to protect it enough so that it can be salvaged after being dropped in a sink of toilet.

Of there is that iPhone that was lost overboard and found months later that was cleaned and dried and battery replaced and it worked. My guess is the salt water immediately shorted the battery.

I have worked on 2-way radios where a truck accidentally went under water. They took the radio out and filled a cooler with the river water and brought it in. Worked fine after cleaning it with distilled water and drying it out.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
11. Sombody needs to correct the Snopes.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:36 PM
Feb 2016

Snopes is a great web resource, but 1977 (TRS-80) came before the Macintosh. Macintosh improved it, didn't introduce it.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
12. I had a model 3. It was a good operating system and the model 16
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:40 PM
Feb 2016

was fantastic. I used to say "Radio Shack took a 68000 processor and made it multiuser with 24 terminals, and Apple took it and drew pretty lines". I was more into Unix than graphics.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
13. It was fantastic.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:18 PM
Feb 2016

Anyone who had one were the true pioneers of the personal computer geek movement. You didn't need to be a geek to run the Macintosh. Although, I do remember my mother zapping alien invaders well into the 90s on the TRS-80. It was epic. Simply epic.

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