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kpete

(72,014 posts) Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:05 PM Feb 2016

Frank Luntz on GOP: "If you’re honest and unbiased, the GOP lost votes last night."

Pollster Frank Luntz, who for years has helped Republicans carefully calibrate their language to appeal to a broad range of voters, was aghast.

“If 10-year-old kids spoke to their teachers the way those candidates spoke to each other, those kids would be suspended,” he said. “There is no way that any independent observer can say the Republicans gained a single vote against the Democrats because of last night. If you’re honest and unbiased, the GOP lost votes last night.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/debate-rips-open-gop-wounds-and-party-risks-tearing-itself-apart/2016/02/14/886312c2-d334-11e5-be55-2cc3c1e4b76b_story.html?postshare=801455494533760&tid=ss_tw

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Frank Luntz on GOP: "If you’re honest and unbiased, the GOP lost votes last night." (Original Post) kpete Feb 2016 OP

Thank You For Sharing This Wonderful News cantbeserious Feb 2016 #1

Yea but they may have gained a reality show. yourout Feb 2016 #2

I remember him from the Perot campaign. mikehiggins Feb 2016 #3

Luntz is part of the establishment working every which way to hit Trump. Stinky The Clown Feb 2016 #4

Actually... Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #5

Luntz -- yet another establishment-GOP propaganda-meister suddenly frightened by his creation. phantom power Feb 2016 #6

Intelligence is knowing Frankenstein wasn't the monster. Wisdom is knowing he was. Bucky Feb 2016 #12

I disagree. malthaussen Feb 2016 #7

People like Luntz C_U_L8R Feb 2016 #8

lol, the Rethugs have been losing votes from Day 1. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2016 #9

it was a shit fest.. best line was " than your mother should run"! juxtaposed Feb 2016 #10

Pandering to their base ThoughtCriminal Feb 2016 #11

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)

1. Thank You For Sharing This Wonderful News

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:07 PM

Feb 2016

eom

yourout

(7,532 posts)

2. Yea but they may have gained a reality show.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:08 PM

Feb 2016

It could be sort of a Republican "Hunger Games" type show with weekly debates followed by Celebrity Deathmatch style cage match.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)

3. I remember him from the Perot campaign.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:10 PM

Feb 2016

DIdn't like him then.

He may be right but he is a hired gun and nothing more.

Stinky The Clown

(67,818 posts)

4. Luntz is part of the establishment working every which way to hit Trump.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:12 PM

Feb 2016

That's ALL that is.

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)

5. Actually...

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:14 PM

Feb 2016

“If 10-year-old kids spoke to their teachers the way those candidates spoke to each other, those kids would be suspended,”

The white kids would have been suspended, the black kid would have been arrested.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)

6. Luntz -- yet another establishment-GOP propaganda-meister suddenly frightened by his creation.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:15 PM

Feb 2016

Bucky

(54,065 posts)

12. Intelligence is knowing Frankenstein wasn't the monster. Wisdom is knowing he was.

Reply to phantom power (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:32 PM

Feb 2016

It's not that Trump is damaging the party, he's only doing what he was designed to do

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)

7. I disagree.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:16 PM

Feb 2016

Well, maybe not totally. Stipulate there are still a few people who are truly undecided between the GOP and the Democrats, the kind of conduct displayed may alienate them.

But it will have no negative influence on those who favor authoritarian rulers. They expect their children to obey authority, but they want their leaders to be assholes. The bigger the better. They confuse this with strength.

-- Mal

C_U_L8R

(45,020 posts)

8. People like Luntz

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:18 PM

Feb 2016

got the GOP into the stinking quagmire they're in.
All that manipulative parsing and dog-whistling
tapping into reptilian conservative primal fears.
If mainstream Republicans actually knew how
much they've used... well, never mind, that's giving
them to much credit in the self-realization department.