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alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 08:59 PM Feb 2016

Who Benefits Most from the Supreme Court Opening on the GOP Side? Jeb Bush

The Republican primary thus far has been essentially a kid's game - albeit in the manner of Lord of the Flies. It's been all Id - shouting and saying naughty things because you're mad as hell. If there's been any allegiance to traditional political calculation at all, it has been so mixed with Id as to be unrecognizable: all Id is Trump; mixed Id is Cruz.

With the vacancy on the Court, however, fun and games have ended. The GOP have a rather dim prospect: accept an Obama candidate now, or take your chances on the election - by no means a done deal, and perhaps not even a contest in which they are favored. If you delay now and lose the election, then it's pretty much all over: you can perhaps delay a Supreme Court vote for 11 months (I doubt they will), but you damn sure can't delay it for 5 years. It's win, or see 40 years of judicial activism completely smashed for a generation. So, you see, they have to put the Id away, not because they want to, but because that super ego is now wagging its mighty finger.

OK, forgive the psycho-babble, but the point remains: shit just got ree-aahhhl. That means Trump will suffer, not least because the prospect of Trump appointing an anti-abortion, socially conservative judge is a joke, and everybody knows it. He satisfies some deep yelly impulse, but deep down they all know he's not serious. So, then, the evangelicals would break for Cruz, right? Wrong. As much as Cruz is an authentic conservative nutbag (unlike Trump, who is a neo-fascist blowhard), he's a little too crazy to be electable by a broad public. Rubio has finally revealed his true self as a barely competent tyro. So...

Bush to the rescue. Kasich will be in the mix, too, but as the VP who can help carry the dreaded Obama-backing Ohio. Florida and Ohio - two reliable and mostly pliant conservatives, and suddenly Bush's supposed cred with Latinos will suddenly make sense.

That's my prediction: Bush is in this mix more than ever, even if he shows poorly in SC. It'll take until super Tuesday for the reality of the situation to cover the right wing airwaves. It's coming.

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Who Benefits Most from the Supreme Court Opening on the GOP Side? Jeb Bush (Original Post) alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 OP
Trump would appoint one of his kids. JudyM Feb 2016 #1
the romper room is being closed rbrnmw Feb 2016 #2
I trump goes third party nothing will matter Andy823 Feb 2016 #3
Good analysis, but they will not be able to put out the Trumpster fire.. denbot Feb 2016 #4
That SHOULD make sense but Bush is too much of a dirty word Blasphemer Feb 2016 #5
You're probably right about that alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #6

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
3. I trump goes third party nothing will matter
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 10:30 PM
Feb 2016

Trump will pull his loyal followers with him and then no matter who the GOP picks, Democrats win.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
4. Good analysis, but they will not be able to put out the Trumpster fire..
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:19 AM
Feb 2016

At least not without pissing him off to the point he goes third party, and dooming their chances for the white house, senate, and now the SCOTUS majority, as well.

They have well and truly fucked the pooch this time.

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Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
5. That SHOULD make sense but Bush is too much of a dirty word
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 06:38 AM
Feb 2016

If the GOP base suddenly decides to nominate someone electable, it won't be Bush. They actually have a lot of ire for the Bush family, blaming GWB for Obama's ascension and killing Reagan's legacy, among other things. I believe that, in addition to loving his angry rhetoric, Trump supporters are using him to block a Bush nomination. Someone more electable could be nominated but not until Bush drops out. I don't think many of the pundits wondering "What happened to Jeb?" are willing to admit/see how much of the anger on the RIGHT is directed squarely at Bushco. I like to peruse non-political sites to see what the average GOP voter is thinking. So far, even after Scalia's death, they are still all in for Trump.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
6. You're probably right about that
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 09:11 AM
Feb 2016

I admit I've been surprised by how deeply Jeb seems to be disliked by the conservative base.

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